Page 30 of 66 FirstFirst ... 20282930313240 ... LastLast
Results 291 to 300 of 656

Thread: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

  1. #291
    Sage
    sangha's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Lower Hudson Valley, NY
    Last Seen
    09-17-17 @ 05:48 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    59,990

    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I think I already addressed the technicality and definition in my previous post. Re-read it as you've said nothing to change that it's a "technicality" based on a arbitrary definition.

    I'm simply taking political nonsense and bringing it to the people --- go tell the people how the recession is over and gauge the reaction. Growth needs to be at 5% to significantly improve unemployment. I seriously doubt real people, with real bills and real family's give a **** about your technicality. I've no need of propaganda ... it's in the statistics and the mouths of the people. Sorry you don't like it - but you not liking it doesn't change it.
    I've told people who called it a recession that it's not, and explained that it's slow growth. They agreed with me and I'm pretty sure they were "real" people, not fakes. I don't know who you spend your time with, but most people I know are glad to learn more about the economy and how to analyze it accurately.
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

  2. #292
    Noblesse oblige
    Ockham's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    New Jersey
    Last Seen
    01-27-17 @ 07:23 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    23,909
    Blog Entries
    4

    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I've told people who called it a recession that it's not, and explained that it's slow growth. They agreed with me and I'm pretty sure they were "real" people, not fakes. I don't know who you spend your time with, but most people I know are glad to learn more about the economy and how to analyze it accurately.
    I'm sure you have... Not everyone I spend my time with is employed, or still has their home, or sees definition of a recession as relevant. What they see is how they can buy enough food and keep a roof over their heads. Tell me again how people just need to be more educated about the accuracy and definition of spending on an empty stomach... do tell.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


  3. #293
    Sage
    cpwill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    USofA
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 11:40 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    57,148

    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Snarkiness does not conceal your mistake, or your lack of acknowledging the same
    interesting. does accusation conceal your inability to realize that he wasn't responding to me?

  4. #294
    Sage
    sangha's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Lower Hudson Valley, NY
    Last Seen
    09-17-17 @ 05:48 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    59,990

    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I'm sure you have... Not everyone I spend my time with is employed, or still has their home, or sees definition of a recession as relevant. What they see is how they can buy enough food and keep a roof over their heads. Tell me again how people just need to be more educated about the accuracy and definition of spending on an empty stomach... do tell.
    If someone doesn't think the term is relevant, they are free to do so. It' doesn't mean that we are in a recession, if we aren't.

    And I believe that education is always a good thing, even when its' use is not apparent.

    And I spent a good portion of my life working for a charity that provided services to the poor. I think I've had enough experience to know that they all don't think the same way or that they are all too stupid to recognize the difference between a recession and being unemployed.
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

  5. #295
    Sage
    Guy Incognito's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Last Seen
    12-02-17 @ 07:43 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    11,216

    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I've told people who called it a recession that it's not, and explained that it's slow growth. They agreed with me and I'm pretty sure they were "real" people, not fakes. I don't know who you spend your time with, but most people I know are glad to learn more about the economy and how to analyze it accurately.
    Good point. The economic definition of recession does not fit the facts. Slow growth is the correct term. Slow to the point of almost standstill.

    The trouble is that these economic terms don't really capture the feeling on the ground. Current approaches to economics, both Austrian and Keynesian, are woefully outmoded for the 21st century economy.

    Whether or not you think its a recession or slow growth or whatever, the economy sucks right now, everybody can agree on that.

  6. #296
    Noblesse oblige
    Ockham's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    New Jersey
    Last Seen
    01-27-17 @ 07:23 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    23,909
    Blog Entries
    4

    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    recession not over - Bing

    Quote Originally Posted by CNN
    (note: From Sept. 2010)

    Economic experts may believe the recession is over, but try telling that to the public.

    Seventy-four percent of Americans believe the economy is still in a recession, according to a new CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll. Only 25 percent think the downturn is over.

    One-third of Americans say the recession is serious, while another 29 percent characterize it as moderate.

    One small cause for optimism: the percentage of Americans who say the country is in a recession has dropped 13 points since August.
    Recession not over, public says - CNN

    Added video:

    Last edited by Ockham; 07-31-11 at 01:20 PM. Reason: added vid
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


  7. #297
    Sage
    sangha's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Lower Hudson Valley, NY
    Last Seen
    09-17-17 @ 05:48 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    59,990

    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Because everyone knows that the majority is always right!!
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

  8. #298
    Global Moderator
    Moderator
    Helix's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 07:28 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    37,136

    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    CNN currently reporting that a deal is close; all cuts, no taxes; 3 trillion dollars.

    no link yet. will be interesting to see the details if it passes.

  9. #299
    Guru

    Join Date
    May 2011
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:17 AM
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    3,214

    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    CNN currently reporting that a deal is close; all cuts, no taxes; 3 trillion dollars.

    no link yet. will be interesting to see the details if it passes.
    Last night on C-SPAN, the Senate was debating the Reid proposal. Senator Tom Coburn was speaking and he was speaking against the Reid proposal and he said he was not favorable to the Boehner proposal. He stated that neither plan actually cut the budget. All these proposals did was cut the amount of planned increases and that many billions of increases were still planned. I wonder if $3 trillion is enough to make an actual cut. I wish the people of Congress would be honest with us.

  10. #300
    Global Moderator
    Moderator
    Helix's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 07:28 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    37,136

    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    President to speak at 8:40 PM EDT : ten minutes from now.

Page 30 of 66 FirstFirst ... 20282930313240 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •