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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    First, I didn't say the Republicans have done less. They have both, in effect, done nothing. Democrats have not put forward proposed budgets because they know they will be filibustered by republicans. Republicans have put forward bills that they know will fail in the Senate. The net effect is the same: nothing.

    Republicans thought they were being clever by voting on the Ryan budget -- a naked attempt to play up their base. As it turns out, it was massive self inflicted wound. Even their own constituents were appalled at the attempt to dismantle Medicare.
    While I do not agree with the Ryan plan, I do give him points for taking on an issue that will leave Americans in an awful place if we just stick stick our head in the sand. Maybe I am not partisan enough to discuss these type of things on a site called "debate politics". I would rather have a discussion about economics and what will create a viable economy.

    Perhaps if you had that type of thinking you might say that the Ryan plan and someother things that were passed was a way to start a discussion on issues that need to be addressed.

    I have little interest in winding up in a place like Greece or Ireland where outside entities come in and say you need destructive changes to your economy lest we cut off funding.

    The Fed has done this country a grave disservice keeping interest rates so low so long. People seem to not know or again put their head in the sand on this issue. If interest rates were at normalized levels say 5.5% on 10 year treasuries, interest cost would be 2-3% higher or about 300-400 billion more in interest payments and an even higher deficit.

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Democrats have not put forward proposed budgets because they know they will be filibustered by republicans.
    LOL!

    leadership, anyone?

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    LOL!

    leadership, anyone?
    Prof, shhhhhhhhh! I think the public is becoming more and more aware of which party is actually attempting to put forward a plan while the other party is merely sniping those proposals while making no proposal to move towards lowering the deficit. We should be happy to have the Dems to continue their obstructionist views.

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    Prof, shhhhhhhhh! I think the public is becoming more and more aware of which party is actually attempting to put forward a plan while the other party is merely sniping those proposals while making no proposal to move towards lowering the deficit. We should be happy to have the Dems to continue their obstructionist views.


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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post


    There are no so blind as the partisan who refuses to see.
    May I suggest you purchase some glasses.

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    There are no so blind
    dept chairs just can't help themselfs

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    While I do not agree with the Ryan plan, I do give him points for taking on an issue that will leave Americans in an awful place if we just stick stick our head in the sand. Maybe I am not partisan enough to discuss these type of things on a site called "debate politics". I would rather have a discussion about economics and what will create a viable economy.

    Perhaps if you had that type of thinking you might say that the Ryan plan and someother things that were passed was a way to start a discussion on issues that need to be addressed.

    I have little interest in winding up in a place like Greece or Ireland where outside entities come in and say you need destructive changes to your economy lest we cut off funding.

    The Fed has done this country a grave disservice keeping interest rates so low so long. People seem to not know or again put their head in the sand on this issue. If interest rates were at normalized levels say 5.5% on 10 year treasuries, interest cost would be 2-3% higher or about 300-400 billion more in interest payments and an even higher deficit.
    I'm happy to discuss it from an economic standpoint. Is it your opinion that it was a mistake to stimulate the economy? And the proper course now, as the economy is clearly fragile, is to put the brakes on government spending?

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I'm happy to discuss it from an economic standpoint. Is it your opinion that it was a mistake to stimulate the economy? And the proper course now, as the economy is clearly fragile, is to put the brakes on government spending?
    Krugman answer or the real one?

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Krugman answer or the real one?
    Yeah, let's ignore the Nobel Prize winner and focus on what the Koch Brothers and ALEC thinks
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    fyi

    boehner passed about an hour ago, 218 to 210, approving a SHORT TERM advance of 900 billion dollars of credit accompanied by about 900B in cuts, contingent on passage of the bba

    House passes Boehner debt ceiling plan; focus shifts to Senate - CNN.com

    zero dems crossed over to the speaker, whereas 22 republicans departed

    they are: The no votes: 22 GOPers who balked Boehner - On Congress - POLITICO.com

    it's your move, harry

    hurry!

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