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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    He compared it to an overweight guy with a broken leg going to an emergency room and they tell him he needs to lose weight.
    today: Cataracts, hips, knees and tonsils: NHS begins rationing operations - Health News, Health & Families - The Independent

    Hip and knee replacements only being allowed where patients are in severe pain. Overweight patients will be made to lose weight before being considered for an operation.

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    please explain to us what the senate passed. I know it isn't a budget that has not happened in about three years. Did I miss where they passed something regarding the debt ceiling? Ot is your position doing nothing is better than doing something that does not work.
    It's my position that the republicans have done nothing, since their plan was doomed from the start.

    The Senate would have passed a budget, among other things, if we were operating under majority rule, which worked pretty well for several centuries -- until the new breed of psycho republicans determined that nothing can be done absent a super majority.

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Or will it be all of the non-essential, busy-bodies in the extra-constitutional parts of the federal government?

    How much better off would we be without the education department? Lots. And how many agencies could we do away with who hound and harass American Citizens? We could completely eliminate the EPA and the country would be far better off next year than this.

    There are many choices. I think we should slash the greedy geezers's social security. There is no good reason why they should get so much more out of the system than they ever paid in. Let them feel the pain. It was their greed that got us into this mess.
    I think we would be better off with a smaller more efficient govt. It would be great if we had a country that business needed no oversight. However, some companies have shown not to be responsible. You used the EPA as an example of one branch you would eliminate. I have no faith that companies/business can or will self regulate. When was the last time a coal power plant on its own added scrubbers to reduce sulfer emmissions? When was the last time a private water company reduced contaminates in its water on its own?

    Sometimes their is a need for outside oversite. If business were self regulating we would not have sites that need to be cleaned up.
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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    The Senate would have passed a budget, among other things, if we were operating under majority rule
    LOL!

    he had 60 senators for a year

    he had 53 on may 25: President's budget sinks, 97-0 - TheHill.com

    you don't know what you're talking about

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    LOL!

    he had 60 senators for a year

    he had 53 on may 25: President's budget sinks, 97-0 - TheHill.com

    you don't know what you're talking about
    Yes, the 97-0 canard. The vote was a put-up by Republicans who were cheesed about Ryan's proposal going up in flames.

    As you know, under the new republican order, a simple majority accomplishes nothing. Republicans have decided that the minority now has the authority to derail government in all matters, big and small. It's really quite astonishing.

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    barack the slasher hussein's printed budget, duly submitted to congress, february 14---a republican PUT UP

    LOL!

    poor slash

    sometimes SIXTY senators just aint ENOUGH

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    barack the slasher hussein's printed budget, duly submitted to congress, february 14---a republican PUT UP

    LOL!

    poor slash

    sometimes SIXTY senators just aint ENOUGH
    More empty political theater by the republicans.

    "Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) demanded a vote on Obama’s budget to show that Democrats don’t support any detailed budget blueprint.

    McConnell said Obama’s budget “continues the unsustainable status quo.”

    He noted during a floor speech Wednesday that Democrats initially applauded the plan.

    The president’s budget called for ending tax cuts for the wealthy and a three-year domestic spending freeze, saving an estimated $1.1 trillion over 10 years. Democratic senators at the time called it “an important step forward”, “a good start” and a “credible blueprint.”

    No Democratic senator was willing to support it, however, after Obama discussed a more ambitious plan at George Washington University to save $4 trillion over 12 years. Republicans criticized his speech for lacking detail."

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    It's my position that the republicans have done nothing, since their plan was doomed from the start.

    The Senate would have passed a budget, among other things, if we were operating under majority rule, which worked pretty well for several centuries -- until the new breed of psycho republicans determined that nothing can be done absent a super majority.
    Not sure I understand your logic (?). If you understand how legislation works oftentimes something is passed in one house something is passed in the other house that is somewhat different and then there is a reconciliation process. To say that one side did less than the other by actually doing something versus the other side just saying we don't like that and calling it an action seems almost stupid, but perhaps just political hackery.

    Have the senate democrats put out a budget that was tied up or is this just an outright lie on your part.

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Not sure I understand your logic (?). If you understand how legislation works oftentimes something is passed in one house something is passed in the other house that is somewhat different and then there is a reconciliation process. To say that one side did less than the other by actually doing something versus the other side just saying we don't like that and calling it an action seems almost stupid, but perhaps just political hackery.

    Have the senate democrats put out a budget that was tied up or is this just an outright lie on your part.
    First, I didn't say the Republicans have done less. They have both, in effect, done nothing. Democrats have not put forward proposed budgets because they know they will be filibustered by republicans. Republicans have put forward bills that they know will fail in the Senate. The net effect is the same: nothing.

    Republicans thought they were being clever by voting on the Ryan budget -- a naked attempt to play up their base. As it turns out, it was massive self inflicted wound. Even their own constituents were appalled at the attempt to dismantle Medicare.

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    The president's budget called for ending tax cuts for the wealthy
    it sure did

    Democratic senators at the time called it an important step forward, a good start, a credible blueprint
    true

    No Democratic senator was willing to support it, however
    LOL!

    leadership, anyone?

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