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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by ThinktownUSA View Post
    70% don't want Obamacare. We're citing polls now???
    74% show support for a balanced budget amendment
    66% support a proposal like the "Cut, Cap, and Balance" plan....

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by ThinktownUSA View Post
    70% don't want Obamacare. We're citing polls now???
    Perhaps, but according to a 2003 Pew poll 72% of people favored universal healthcare.

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by U.S. Socialist. View Post
    Perhaps, but according to a 2003 Pew poll 72% of people favored universal healthcare.
    Its hard for me to understand why some think if you take the most expensive health care system on the planet and add higher administrative cost and profit, that it is going to solve our health care crisis. We are simply transferring the problem to the private market which is so much more concerned with our seniors health and well being then they are the bottom line?

    Upgrading to some form of Universal health care is the only real solution IMO. It would also put us on a more level playing field with the other countries where employers are not burdened with providing health care coverage for their employees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by U.S. Socialist. View Post
    Perhaps, but according to a 2003 Pew poll 72% of people favored universal healthcare.
    That was well before anyone "read" what was in Obamacare.

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    we made the right choice in '08!
    Woodward's Obama's Wars - NYTimes.com

    The majority of Democrats voted against the tax cuts and the majority of Republicans voted for the tax cuts
    44 senate democrats voted FOR extending the bush/obama/clinton/boehner/mconnell tax cuts, only 14 voted against

    Senate passes package extending Bush tax cuts - politics - Capitol Hill - msnbc.com

    in the house it was 165 to 112

    Congress votes to extend Bush-era tax cuts until 2012

    Al Gore's proposal
    LOL!

    Bravo, its about time we had leadership for some real deficit reduction!!!
    may 25: http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/1...t-obama-budget
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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by U.S. Socialist. View Post
    Perhaps, but according to a 2003 Pew poll 72% of people favored universal healthcare.
    There are those who don't really want to look at the numbers. They prefer to take a single line and pretend it says what they want it to say.

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    74% show support for a balanced budget amendment
    66% support a proposal like the "Cut, Cap, and Balance" plan....
    Sadly, the only thing these polls show is that Americans aren't very knowledgeable about government. Anyone who's paying attention knows that a balanced budget amendment would necessitate MASSIVE cuts to Medicare, Social Security, and virtually everything else. But polls also show that a large majority of Americans (including Tea Party members) oppose any significant cuts to Medicare and Social Security. In other words, these are completely inconsistent positions.

    It would be revealing if the polls included intensity information. My guess is that most people are pretty weak in their support of a balanced budget ("hmm, sure, that sounds like a good idea") but pretty rabid about deep cuts to Medicare and Social Security ("you'll pry my Medicare out of my cold, dead hands! (literally)).

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    They prefer to take a single line and pretend it says what they want it to say.
    says the 60 second clicker who disparages research and links to sydney, australia, on behalf of school teachers in new york

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    i hope that if we learn nothing else from this debt crisis, we at least accept that outsourcing an employment sector without replacing it is a losing proposition.

    a large part of the reason that there isn't enough tax revenue is that a lot of people who used to be working and making a good middle class living are no longer working / earning as much, and therefore are paying less or no taxes. so while outsourcing those jobs has led to goods with a lower retail price, that lower price is an illusion. once lost tax revenue and public financial support for displaced workers are factored in, paying more for consumer electronics starts to look like a much better deal.

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    Re: Poll: Debt ceiling deal should include cuts and tax increases

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    A new poll by CBS News shows a majority of Americans - Democrat, Independent and Republican - prefer a combination of spending cuts and tax increases as part of a deal to raise the debt ceiling. SO, when is the GOP going to catch up?
    Look, we won't get fooled again. In 1990 the tax hikes were immediate while the tax cuts were down the road, they never materialized. They did the same in 1982. Sorry, either the cuts and the hikes are simultanious or there is no deal.
    "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." - John Adams

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