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    Re: Obama Officially Threatens to Veto "Cut, Cap, Balance"

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    In its place, Obama and Democrats propose "Spend, No-Limit, Deficits"....or their other plan of "Tax, Tax, Tax, Tax".....and while Democrats will support some Spending cuts....its only if they are offset with Spending increases.......

    ........this is how liberals balance budgets....why every Democrat state and city is Bankrupt....and why every liberal utopia around the world is Bankrupt and approaching collapse.... Liberalism leads to Bankruptcy every time its tried.
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    Not really, it seems the tax cut and spend policies of the other side have lead to the bankruptcy of America. What can be more ingenious than starting a war during a recession and cutting taxes to pay for it. Sorry, the drunken sailors of 2001 to 2009 left quite a bar tab.

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    Re: Obama Officially Threatens to Veto "Cut, Cap, Balance"

    "The full consequences of a default or even the serious prospect of default by the United States are impossible to predict and awesome to contemplate. [...] The risks, the cost, the disruptions, and the incalculable damage lead me to but one conclusion: the Senate must pass this legislation before the Congress adjourns. I want to thank you for your immediate attention to this urgent problem and for your assistance in passing an extension of the debt ceiling."

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    Tax those paying most of the taxes already so the White House can spend more. More taxes does NOT equal paying debt. They just spend more. BOTH SIDES do it.

    Get Obama out and the "rich" will start spending and creating jobs again. Right now they're scared to spend a dime with that TAX TAKE AND SPEND wacko destroying the economy.

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    Re: Obama Officially Threatens to Veto "Cut, Cap, Balance"

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    "The full consequences of a default or even the serious prospect of default by the United States are impossible to predict and awesome to contemplate. [...] The risks, the cost, the disruptions, and the incalculable damage lead me to but one conclusion: the Senate must pass this legislation before the Congress adjourns. I want to thank you for your immediate attention to this urgent problem and for your assistance in passing an extension of the debt ceiling."

    -Ronald Reagan (Who raised the debt ceiling 18 times during his presidency)
    ...which was 8 years long. Now, Obama is insisting that in honor of Reagan we should raise the debt ceiling as he did.

    okay. 8 years times 12 months = 96 months. Divided by 18 means that he got his debt ceiling increases in 5.3 month increments.

    no doubt Obama would be fine with that.


    oh wait. He said he would veto that....

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    Re: Obama Officially Threatens to Veto "Cut, Cap, Balance"

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    HAHAHAHAHA Nice try. Actually, no it wasn't a nice try. Rather pathetic, actually. Polls show that a majority of AMERICANS, not just Democrats, support Obama on this issue.
    two thirds also poll in support of Cut, Cap, and Balance, and more than that poll in favor of a general Balanced Budget Amendment.

    It seems that the American people poll in favor of solving our deficit and debt crises, and are willing to take a range of solutions so long as it gets us there.

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    Re: Obama Officially Threatens to Veto "Cut, Cap, Balance"

    This is all about Reid falling on his sword so Obama doesn't have to veto a bill that raises the debt ceiling.
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    Re: Obama Officially Threatens to Veto "Cut, Cap, Balance"

    Quote Originally Posted by ThinktownUSA View Post
    Tax those paying most of the taxes already so the White House can spend more. More taxes does NOT equal paying debt. They just spend more. BOTH SIDES do it.

    Get Obama out and the "rich" will start spending and creating jobs again. Right now they're scared to spend a dime with that TAX TAKE AND SPEND wacko destroying the economy.
    Enjoy another glass of Fox News kool-aid.... It's hard to believe people actually believe some of this stuff.

    Just to cut through the veneer, please explain to me exactly how the "rich" create jobs. After you stumble on that one, I will explain to you exactly how jobs are created, and it has very, very little to do with the "rich" and almost everything to do with the middle class (which is who you propose to take money from).

    You also apparently believe the myth that the Republicans are interested in cutting the debt. You can't cut the debt until you have eliminated deficits, and you can not do that on expenditure cuts alone... especially since each dollar of expenditure cut will lead to a $.50 to $.75 revenue cut.

    If you are not willing to raise taxes, you are not serious of deficit reduction... Virtually every credible economist that has examined this issue has said this requires a mixed approach. Raising taxes on the people that have benefited from the slow economy is the least painful way to work toward a closing of the budget gap.... that group of people is least likely to change their behavior by Washington actions.

    They may have taught you how to write at ThinkTown High, but how to think is another matter. You are being played like a violin. Again, don't spill that Kool-aid on your shirt. It tends to stain.
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    Re: Obama Officially Threatens to Veto "Cut, Cap, Balance"

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    ...which was 8 years long. Now, Obama is insisting that in honor of Reagan we should raise the debt ceiling as he did.

    okay. 8 years times 12 months = 96 months. Divided by 18 means that he got his debt ceiling increases in 5.3 month increments.

    no doubt Obama would be fine with that.


    oh wait. He said he would veto that....
    Don't be disingenuous! You're a smart guy, you know why that makes no sense. The debt ceiling was never this politicized until this go around. It has brought Washington to a virtual halt for two months. If the political atmosphere were less acrimonious than no one would object to the two step process. But, you and I and the rest of the world know that a re-do in 6 months would be deja vu all over again. Get this done now!

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    Re: Obama Officially Threatens to Veto "Cut, Cap, Balance"

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    two thirds also poll in support of Cut, Cap, and Balance, and more than that poll in favor of a general Balanced Budget Amendment.

    It seems that the American people poll in favor of solving our deficit and debt crises, and are willing to take a range of solutions so long as it gets us there.
    ...and two thirds of Americans support a near term solution that includes tax increases and spending cuts. Curiously, certain tax increases have public support of 65% or greater and NO spending cut has approval of greater than 47% (that would be defense cuts).... with most have approval of less than 40%. From a public opinion perspective, tax increases are clearly the way to go.

    http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/im.../21/rel11b.pdf

    Given that public opinion is so important to your politics, I conclude that you also support tax increases and are less excited by spending cuts.... If not, than stand-down on your shallow arguments.
    Last edited by upsideguy; 07-28-11 at 11:32 AM.

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    Re: Obama Officially Threatens to Veto "Cut, Cap, Balance"

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    In its place, Obama and Democrats propose "Spend, No-Limit, Deficits"....or their other plan of "Tax, Tax, Tax, Tax".....and while Democrats will support some Spending cuts....its only if they are offset with Spending increases.......

    ........this is how liberals balance budgets....why every Democrat state and city is Bankrupt....and why every liberal utopia around the world is Bankrupt and approaching collapse.... Liberalism leads to Bankruptcy every time its tried.
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    I hope that the republicans dig in and won't give in, let the bastard sweat it out since all this will occur on his watch. I love it!! I hope he doesn't pay the old people's social security, the debt, us GIs and our families,etc.etc. LOVE IT!!!!
    Last edited by Red Crow; 07-28-11 at 11:15 AM.
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