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    Re: Poll: 71% shun GOP handling of debt crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post

    I suppose if it's not a party, Teabagger really is more appropriate than Teapartier.
    Not really unless you don't actually have a dictionary or live within the world. I guess when someone says "Smith, party of 4, you're table is ready" they're actually talking about people running for office because apparently "party" only means in the political sense. I guess when someone is hosting a get together and saying there's a party at the park they're meaning there's some kind of officially recognized political organization that is putting forward party backed candidates having an event at the park. I guess the Boston Tea Partiers were running for state office as something akin to the Whigs or Tories.

    Or perhaps "party" can mean things other than an officially endorsed political group that runs national campaigns with candidates under its banner.

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    Re: Poll: 71% shun GOP handling of debt crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post

    Nice... Obama's within 9% of Bush 43 in only 2 1/2 years.
    True, but again, those numbers exclude inflation.

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    Re: Poll: 71% shun GOP handling of debt crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Ummm, Fred O'Neil is a registered Republican.

    Seems you think he is a Republican pretending to be a Democrat pretending to be a Teabagger.
    Just like I'm a registered Democrat.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Poll: 71% shun GOP handling of debt crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    True, but again, those numbers exclude inflation.
    Doesn't change the math. If Obama's 2 1/2 years are any indication of future performance of his last 1 1/2 years, Obama will be at 33.9% in 4 years compared to 34.2% for 'ol George W. Give Obama another 4 years starting in 2012 and we have a new spend / debt leader that kicks the crap out of 'ol George W.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Poll: 71% shun GOP handling of debt crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post

    Not really unless you don't actually have a dictionary or live within the world. I guess when someone says "Smith, party of 4, you're table is ready" they're actually talking about people running for office because apparently "party" only means in the political sense.
    Well, no, but then a party going to a restaurant is not running for office, yet the Tea Party is putting up candidates, as Republicans, to run for them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post

    I guess when someone is hosting a get together and saying there's a party at the park they're meaning there's some kind of officially recognized political organization that is putting forward party backed candidates having an event at the park.
    Same as above, only in a park instead of a restaurant.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post

    I guess the Boston Tea Partiers were running for state office as something akin to the Whigs or Tories.
    I'm not familiar enough to know -- did participants of the Boston Tea Party call themselves Boston Tea Partiers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post

    Or perhaps "party" can mean things other than an officially endorsed political group that runs national campaigns with candidates under its banner.
    I suppose. But when the term "party" is used in conjunction with politics, it's typically thought of as a political party.

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    Re: Poll: 71% shun GOP handling of debt crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post

    Just like I'm a registered Democrat.
    He's against high taxes, seems Conservative to me. Are you, as a registered Democrat, for higher taxes?

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    Re: Poll: 71% shun GOP handling of debt crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    He's against high taxes, seems Conservative to me. Are you, as a registered Democrat, for higher taxes?
    Does that mean I can't open a third party here in NJ, pay my fee and call it the Tea Party? No it doesn't.... what a person registers / labels themself to be and what / who they actually are, doesn't always reflect the truth. Second fallacy - because a person is against taxes does not mean their Conservative.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Poll: 71% shun GOP handling of debt crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post

    Doesn't change the math.
    Of course it does. Let's compare Bush, $4.9T, with Reagan, $1.7T. Comparing those two without inflation is comparing 1988 dollars with 2008 dollars. Add inflation and the math most certainly does change.

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    Re: Poll: 71% shun GOP handling of debt crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Of course it does. Let's compare Bush, $4.9T, with Reagan, $1.7T. Comparing those two without inflation is comparing 1988 dollars with 2008 dollars. Add inflation and the math most certainly does change.
    You failed to take that into account. How is that my problem?
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Poll: 71% shun GOP handling of debt crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post

    Does that mean I can't open a third party here in NJ, pay my fee and call it the Tea Party? No it doesn't.... what a person registers / labels themself to be and what / who they actually are, doesn't always reflect the truth.
    But that evades the whole point of how come members of the Tea Party run as members of the Republican Party and not as members of the Tea party? You first tried to avoid answering with some deflection about how theTea Party isn't a registered political party. But I showed you it is in some places; and there is no reason it can't be nationally.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post

    Second fallacy - because a person is against taxes does not mean their Conservative.
    True, but then you have no evidence that a registered-Republican, tax-hating, self-described Conservative, isn't a "real Republican."

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