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    Re: Cain: Tenn. Mosque Infringes on Religious Freedom

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    The point is -- THIS IS A FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT to worship as you please. I thought Republicans loved the Constitution..
    yeah, up until it protects religions or political speech that they don't like.

    once that happens, the Bill of Rights is just Liberal, Commy, criminal-loving jibber-jabber.

    ....except for the 2nd Amendment, of course. But then someday they will want to suspend that too, for Muslims, Liberals, gays, etc etc..

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    Re: Cain: Tenn. Mosque Infringes on Religious Freedom

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    No, but I would if they wanted to change our laws.
    They do want to change our laws. You don't think Christians try to get their religious views encoded in US law?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Cain: Tenn. Mosque Infringes on Religious Freedom

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    They do want to change our laws. You don't think Christians try to get their religious views encoded in US law?
    Catholics and Evangelicals do indeed try to infuence legislation based on their religious beliefs.

    They claim such ALLL the time.

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    Re: Cain: Tenn. Mosque Infringes on Religious Freedom

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Roman Catholics are obligated to follow the directions of their spiritual leader, the Pope.

    this does not concern you, but Muslims eating Hallal food does?
    We are only obligated to follow him in religious and moral matters, not political.
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    Re: Cain: Tenn. Mosque Infringes on Religious Freedom

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    We are only obligated to follow him in religious and moral matters, not political.
    And yet, all this effort to enshrine religious beliefs into law.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Cain: Tenn. Mosque Infringes on Religious Freedom

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    We are only obligated to follow him in religious and moral matters, not political.
    oh, so Catholics can support abortion rights? gay marriage?

    is this why the Diocese of Brooklyn has ordered all Catholics to return any gifts or awards given by Governor Cuomo, since he signed same-sex marriage into law?

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    Re: Cain: Tenn. Mosque Infringes on Religious Freedom

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    We are only obligated to follow him in religious and moral matters, not political.
    But religious and moral matters often collide with politics. We have centuries of written works by Christians trying to grapple with the perhaps conflicting responsibilities of Christian belief and Giving unto Caesar.
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    Re: Cain: Tenn. Mosque Infringes on Religious Freedom

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    oh, so Catholics can support abortion rights? gay marriage?

    is this why the Diocese of Brooklyn has ordered all Catholics to return any gifts or awards given by Governor Cuomo, since he signed same-sex marriage into law?
    Bishop Guido thinks you oughta return that. It would be unfortunate if you were to go to Hell.


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    Re: Cain: Tenn. Mosque Infringes on Religious Freedom

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Herman Cain: Tennessee Mosque 'Is an Infringement and an Abuse of Our Freedom of Religion'



    People worshipping the God of their choice is such an infringement of religious freedom.
    I have no idea what Cain meant, but I think one could make an argument that when people use freedom of religion to justify teaching hate, violence, etc., it is an abuse of the right. Just like Westboro Baptist protesting at funerals is an abuse of the freedom of speech.

    Not saying that is what any particular Mosque is doing. In fact, I usually err on the side of thinking Cain's type of outrage is ignorant and borderline racist. Just saying.
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    Re: Cain: Tenn. Mosque Infringes on Religious Freedom

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    oh, so Catholics can support abortion rights? gay marriage?

    is this why the Diocese of Brooklyn has ordered all Catholics to return any gifts or awards given by Governor Cuomo, since he signed same-sex marriage into law?
    Many Catholics DO support those things on a political basis.
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