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    Re: Cain: Tenn. Mosque Infringes on Religious Freedom

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    So, what, he just forgot about the constitution for a bit, and when it was pointed out he was like "OH YEAH! We have that first amendment thing. My bad."
    I think it probably want something more like this: "OH YEAH! We have that first amendment thing. Too bad, vote for me and I"ll fix that."

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    Re: Cain: Tenn. Mosque Infringes on Religious Freedom

    Quote Originally Posted by U.S. Socialist. View Post
    You want to use logic and reason? How about the logic of the first amendment where it says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" forbidden the bullring of a mosque prohibits the free excises thereof.
    Yeah, it says “religion” not a sham religion with a not so hidden agenda of violent fascist political ideology that divides the world into believers and non-believers.

    And it’s not just simply division, but one with bloodshed and an ultimate goal of conquering and submission to establish a worldwide caliphate. A caliphate is an islamic kingdom in which the ruler is a successor to its prophet, i.e. mo. This global caliphate movement had been boiling both outside and inside our own country for many years already. The recent arab spring revolution flaming all over the arab lands is part of the caliphate movement.

    Here’s a direct quote from a research source:
    “Do average Muslims dream of the Caliphate rule? Analyzing data from four Islamic countries gathered by PIPA in 2007, the answer is yes.”
    Support for the Caliphate and Radical Mobilization. The National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terror (START), START Research Brief, January 2008.

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    Like I said, the sham religion islam has already proven itself to be a very violent doctrine many times over since its beginning. It has a track record of 1400 years of robberies, rape, enslavement, torture, conquer and mass murders. They are there for you to see. Muslim terror jihadists overseas and in this country such as the time square bomber, the Fort Hood jihadist and the Little Rock, Arkansas muslim convert adulhakim mohammad had all told us their motivation for killing is to fight for the cause of allah. The now dead osama even quoted quran verses to tell us his islamic justification for his attacks. But, with all these, you simply ignore them all but choose to side with evil to risk our children and our country's future for your pride.

    Before 1929 there was no immigration law barring immigration except Chinese immigrants on the ground of racial unassimilability. It had been done before, so why can’t we do the same again since muslims in general are unassimilable by choice.

    Like I said, Aum/Aleph religious group and other cults combined were many times less violence than islam, so when are you going to speak out and protest against the U.S. State Department for singling out Aum/Aleph religious organization as terrorist group for the 1995 sarin gas attack incident? Where is your logic?

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    Re: Cain: Tenn. Mosque Infringes on Religious Freedom

    Quote Originally Posted by dolphinocean View Post
    Yeah, it says “religion” not a sham religion with a not so hidden agenda of violent fascist political ideology that divides the world into believers and non-believers.

    And it’s not just simply division, but one with bloodshed and an ultimate goal of conquering and submission to establish a worldwide caliphate. A caliphate is an islamic kingdom in which the ruler is a successor to its prophet, i.e. mo. This global caliphate movement had been boiling both outside and inside our own country for many years already. The recent arab spring revolution flaming all over the arab lands is part of the caliphate movement.

    Here’s a direct quote from a research source:
    “Do average Muslims dream of the Caliphate rule? Analyzing data from four Islamic countries gathered by PIPA in 2007, the answer is yes.”
    Support for the Caliphate and Radical Mobilization. The National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terror (START), START Research Brief, January 2008.

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    Like I said, the sham religion islam has already proven itself to be a very violent doctrine many times over since its beginning. It has a track record of 1400 years of robberies, rape, enslavement, torture, conquer and mass murders. They are there for you to see. Muslim terror jihadists overseas and in this country such as the time square bomber, the Fort Hood jihadist and the Little Rock, Arkansas muslim convert adulhakim mohammad had all told us their motivation for killing is to fight for the cause of allah. The now dead osama even quoted quran verses to tell us his islamic justification for his attacks. But, with all these, you simply ignore them all but choose to side with evil to risk our children and our country's future for your pride.

    Before 1929 there was no immigration law barring immigration except Chinese immigrants on the ground of racial unassimilability. It had been done before, so why can’t we do the same again since muslims in general are unassimilable by choice.

    Like I said, Aum/Aleph religious group and other cults combined were many times less violence than islam, so when are you going to speak out and protest against the U.S. State Department for singling out Aum/Aleph religious organization as terrorist group for the 1995 sarin gas attack incident? Where is your logic?
    It is a religion. It might violent and reactionary as all hell, its not any worse than Christianity has been throughout its history by the way,but it is still a religion. It meets the definition of religion therefore it is religion. You can't compare Aum Shyraim to Islam. One is a new religious movement that has very few followers and has contributed nothing but violence. The other is 1400 years old has a a billion followers and has contributed greatly to civilization. Where do you think Algebra came from?

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    Re: Cain: Tenn. Mosque Infringes on Religious Freedom

    I like Cain. Go, Cain. He tells it like it is.
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    Re: Cain: Tenn. Mosque Infringes on Religious Freedom

    Quote Originally Posted by U.S. Socialist. View Post
    It is a religion. It might violent and reactionary as all hell, its not any worse than Christianity has been throughout its history by the way,but it is still a religion. It meets the definition of religion therefore it is religion. You can't compare Aum Shyraim to Islam. One is a new religious movement that has very few followers and has contributed nothing but violence. The other is 1400 years old has a a billion followers and has contributed greatly to civilization. Where do you think Algebra came from?
    So, all you have is nothing but to insist it is a religion? It's a fallacy of argument by force.

    Your "new" and "old" argument is pathetic. It's a fallacy, it doesn't prove anything. The most you proved is that islam has 1400 years of global violent track record as compared to Aum Shinrikyo's less than 2 year violent in one country. Your "few" or "more" argument is also a pathetic fallacy. Number doesn't prove anything. We can simply outlaw islam and make it illegal for any people to belief in islam worldwide, that would soon make them rare. That would achieve your illogical end.

    Your comparison of islam's violence to Christianity's past history is also a fallacy of comparing apples and oranges. There is nothing in the Christian doctrine that can be used as justification for any violence. For islam, the whole islamic doctrine is based on violence and the command for its followers to emulate.

    Regarding Algebra you're being fooled by islamic arab lie. The sham, islam, arose from a dry dirt sandland in 7th century mecca with no historical records, no ancient literatures, or artifacts of any kind; no nothing. All of a sudden they claimed every inventions others conquered by them had made. No, Algebra was from ancient India and Babylon long before mecca even existed.

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    Re: Cain: Tenn. Mosque Infringes on Religious Freedom

    Quote Originally Posted by dolphinocean View Post
    So, all you have is nothing but to insist it is a religion? It's a fallacy of argument by force.

    Your "new" and "old" argument is pathetic. It's a fallacy, it doesn't prove anything. The most you proved is that islam has 1400 years of global violent track record as compared to Aum Shinrikyo's less than 2 year violent in one country. Your "few" or "more" argument is also a pathetic fallacy. Number doesn't prove anything. We can simply outlaw islam and make it illegal for any people to belief in islam worldwide, that would soon make them rare. That would achieve your illogical end.

    Your comparison of islam's violence to Christianity's past history is also a fallacy of comparing apples and oranges. There is nothing in the Christian doctrine that can be used as justification for any violence. For islam, the whole islamic doctrine is based on violence and the command for its followers to emulate.

    Regarding Algebra you're being fooled by islamic arab lie. The sham, islam, arose from a dry dirt sandland in 7th century mecca with no historical records, no ancient literatures, or artifacts of any kind; no nothing. All of a sudden they claimed every inventions others conquered by them had made. No, Algebra was from ancient India and Babylon long before mecca even existed.
    I've given the actual dictionary definitions of religion and you've ignored them. Should I quote sociologist on this issue? How can I prove to you it's a religion if you ignore facts. I swear do facts mean nothing to you people. If you're going to ignore the very definition of religion then talking to you is pointless.
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    Re: Cain: Tenn. Mosque Infringes on Religious Freedom

    Quote Originally Posted by ElCid View Post
    I like Cain. Go, Cain. He tells it like it is.
    I take it you're not aware of his backpedal.
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    Re: Cain: Tenn. Mosque Infringes on Religious Freedom

    Quote Originally Posted by U.S. Socialist. View Post
    I've given the actual dictionary definitions of religion and you've ignored them. Should I quote sociologist on this issue? How can I prove to you it's a religion if you ignore facts. I swear do facts mean nothing to you people. If you're going to ignore the very definition of religion then talking to you is pointless.
    Your talking to me is pointless because, like I said, your appeal to dictionary definition is a self-defeating argument. Sad thing is you don’t even realize your own doing of self-destruct.

    If you so insist, then let’s go through the definition you posted:
    1.the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power , especially a personal God or gods:ideas about the relationship between science and religion2.a particular system of faith and worship 3.a pursuit or interest to which someone ascribes supreme importance:consumerism is the new religion Link:definition of religion from Oxford Dictionaries Online
    Number 1 encompasses every cults, even the violent ones such as Jim Jones’ People’s
    Temple cult, David Koresh’s Branch Davidian, Shoko Asahar’s Aum Shinrikyo, etc. They are considered violent cults by our government and other nations and as such were aggressively dealt with and banned, yet you would consider them “religions” by your very definition. Since our government and other world leaders had been aggressively prosecuting members of these “religions” and banned their “religious” organizations from teaching their hate filled doctrines, so what if you insist that islam is a religion by your defintion. Our govenment and our people can still aggressively prosecute and outlaw them as we did the other cults. I don’t see you or your flocks crying about them being persecuted. See your pointlessness? See how you self-destruct?

    Likewise for number 2, your definition includes every cult plus criminal elements with elaborate system of hierarchy and propcedures whose leader is worshipped as invincible figure, such as charles manson and the godfathers of organized gangs. Since our government and other world leaders had been aggressively prosecuted them for their criminal behavior and did everything in their power to outlaw them, so what if you consider islam as a religion? I don’t see you or your flocks speak out about their First Amendment being violated. See your pointlessness? See how you self-destruct?

    As for number 3, as it said, consumerism would be considered a “religion”. So, when have you or your cohorts spoke out against the government for the war against drugs? Shouldn’t consumers of cocaine, meths and other hardcore or soft core drugs be up to the consumers’ right of consumption to do so by the First Amendment right to religion? See your pointlessness? See how you self-destruct?

    Talk about facts, you don’t know a thing about anything, let alone facts. For your info, Aum Shrinkiyo wasn’t exactly a “new religion” or very small as you said. Here’s the quote from CDC.gov website:

    The cult's operations were worldwide, promoting a theology drawn from different sources, including Buddhism, Christianity, Shamanism, Hinduism, and New Age beliefs. Cult membership around the world was likely 20,000 to 40,000 Aum Shinrikyo: Once and Future Threat?
    Aum Shinrikyo had foundation from several ancient religions that had 3,000 to more than 4,000 years of history. Much, much older than islam, being only about 1400 years the most. Besides, those major religions have doctrines that teach love and peace. Not hate and murder like islam. So, based on your new vs old argument, we can just throw out islam for being not only very violent but also relatively very new.

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    Re: Cain: Tenn. Mosque Infringes on Religious Freedom

    A mosque in TN infringes on my religion the way medical marijuana infringes on my right to smoke tobacco
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    Re: Cain: Tenn. Mosque Infringes on Religious Freedom

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    So the bible isn't the word of God? Phew, that's a relief. It's also good to know that bible verses can expire. I guess that makes The Gay ok now, right? The bible definitely can be edited at will!
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