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    Re: Cain: Tenn. Mosque Infringes on Religious Freedom

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Replace Catholic in every instance with Muslim.

    Starting to get why people are upset with Cain?
    In terms of islam, it's more accurate to replace jim jones' peoples' temple cult, or david koresh's branch davidian cult, or charles manson's helter skelter cult in every instance with islamic pedophilia and bloody violent cult and you'll start to understand why people are upset with the liberal mind legimatising a violent cult masquerading as a religion.

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    Re: Cain: Tenn. Mosque Infringes on Religious Freedom

    Quote Originally Posted by dolphinocean View Post
    In terms of islam, it's more accurate to replace jim jones' peoples' temple cult, or david koresh's branch davidian cult, or charles manson's helter skelter cult in every instance with islamic pedophilia and bloody violent cult and you'll start to understand why people are upset with the liberal mind legimatising a violent cult masquerading as a religion.
    It's really sad that you think this way. It must be terrifying to believe that 1.4 billion people all want to kill you.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Cain: Tenn. Mosque Infringes on Religious Freedom

    Most western people, especially the liberals, do not know the violent history of islam since its beginning in the 7th century. Many do not know or refused to know that the islamic teaching specifically teaches its followers to hate and terrorize non-muslims whom islam designated as "infidels".

    I know many here would say the Bible also contained many violent verses in the OT. But, the fact of the matter is that the violence mentioned in the Bible was a narrative account of what happened to wicked people whom God had given them 500 years to mend their ways but refused. It's like what we are doing now with the terrorists when we try to kill all those islamic terrorists whose wicked ways include using children and mentally impaired women and naive young men as suicide bombers or suicide hijackers to murder massive innocent civilains. Certainly, wicked people whether of ancient or modern times deserved to be wiped out to prevent further bloody mayhems.

    But, the quran is considered by muslims as the direct dictation of allah to mohammad for his followers as allah's command for all time. The key word here is "for all time". Therefore, the violent verses in the quran are applicable to the modernday muslims as they were to the 7th century followers of mohammad. Not only that, the quran also told all the muslims to follow the example of mohammad in every way of his life since he was said to be the best model for all humanity by allah. But the examples of mohammad's way of life were very violent and sinisters. They were recorded by early muslims in the collections of islamic history writings such as ishaq's and tabari's biography of mohammad and other ahadith

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    Re: Cain: Tenn. Mosque Infringes on Religious Freedom

    Quote Originally Posted by dolphinocean View Post
    But, the quran is considered by muslims as the direct dictation of allah to mohammad for his followers as allah's command for all time. The key word here is "for all time". Therefore, the violent verses in the quran are applicable to the modernday muslims as they were to the 7th century followers of mohammad. Not only that, the quran also told all the muslims to follow the example of mohammad in every way of his life since he was said to be the best model for all humanity by allah. But the examples of mohammad's way of life were very violent and sinisters. They were recorded by early muslims in the collections of islamic history writings such as ishaq's and tabari's biography of mohammad and other ahadith
    So the bible isn't the word of God? Phew, that's a relief. It's also good to know that bible verses can expire. I guess that makes The Gay ok now, right? The bible definitely can be edited at will!
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Cain: Tenn. Mosque Infringes on Religious Freedom

    The sad think is that people like you are being used as a trojan horse to destroy this great country and other western civilization. I can only warn you, but our children and children's children's future rest in your hand.

    One thing good about humanity is that deep down within our heart, there is inscribed to our understanding a basic morality of good and evil. Even people born into the muslim culture who are muslim by birth and not by choice do not really know much about their islamic history. When they are not religiously inclined, they do not know the truth about islam and therefore their humanity makes them human. But, once they become religious in islam they will turn violent in accordance to the command of allah in the quran. Even a convert from the west will turn violent when they became religious. There were a lot of cases of such, the recent one being abdulhakim muhammad who cowardly murdered Private William Long and wounding Private Quinton Ezeagwula at a Little Rock recruiting center in 2009.
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    Re: Cain: Tenn. Mosque Infringes on Religious Freedom

    You argument is non sequitur. Why do expect ancient narration about the Israelites' war to be for all time? The "for all time" are commands such as "Thous shalt not kill".

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    Re: Cain: Tenn. Mosque Infringes on Religious Freedom

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Cain wrongfully believes that the Mosque intends to spread Sharia law into our courts, this is what he said infringes upon religious freedom (sharia law) not the building of the Mosque.
    Tbh though, that distinction, while relevant and significant, doesn't do anything to prevent Cain from falling into one of the ignorant/wacko/ignorant wacko categories.


    "It is another example of why I believe in American laws and American courts," Cain said. "This is just another way to try to gradually sneak Shariah law into our laws, and I absolutely object to that."
    Also, it should be noted that the pronoun "this" in that quote does indeed seem to refer to the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro. So, there could be a case made that Cain said
    It is another example of why I believe in American laws and American courts," Cain said. "[The Islamic Center of Murfreesboro] is just another way to try to gradually sneak Shariah law into our laws, and I absolutely object to that."
    ymmv
    And if one accepts that the "this" refers to the ICM, which one is not required to do, Then it seems that the "this" "is just another way to try to gradually sneak Shariah law into our laws."
    And if "spread[ing] Sharia law into our courts...is what he said infringes upon religious freedom", and if the ICM "is just another way to try to gradually sneak Shariah law into our laws," then it seems reasonable to think that what Cain said is equivalent to saying that the ICM infringes on (or will infringe on) religious freedom.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Cain: Tenn. Mosque Infringes on Religious Freedom

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    I want a president who will be on the look-out for the infiltration of sharia law.
    I see. And how much of the PotUS's time should be spent looking in the closet and under the bed?
    There's no way sharia's going be a part of our laws in the lifetime of anyone we will meet in our lifetimes.
    Just look at the level of outrage the infiltration of sharia law into American law has already achieved. Imagine how much greater and virulent the reaction would be if it were a real threat.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Cain: Tenn. Mosque Infringes on Religious Freedom

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    will they start imposing Talmudic Law upon the American people?
    I am sure that if you looked you could find exactly equivalent examples of this happening as you can for sharia law. The examples would be just as compelling too.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Cain: Tenn. Mosque Infringes on Religious Freedom

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    Texas Governor Sued over Prayer Meeting - US - CBN News - Christian News 24-7 - CBN.com
    first amendment:
    tell us why his advocacy of the day of prayer would not be found as establishing a religion approved by the state
    Because the SC ruled on the very issue the very week before Perry started his campaign. If you're genuinely interested I will look it up again.
    I may be wrong.

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