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    Re: Chrysler UAW workers caught doping, drinking-----Again-----

    I am going to bring up my Tea Partying racist friend again.

    Whenever he sees a black guy get arrested, to him it means "Blacks are criminals," not that this one guy was a criminal. Replace "black guy" with "UAW member," and you've got the same thing going on here. I'm not going to defend these guys, but if they weren't in a Union, nobody would have taped them, and Cons wouldn't give a crap.


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    Re: Chrysler UAW workers caught doping, drinking-----Again-----

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Bottom line here boys... is that anyone, in any private or public job who, during lunch goes out and boozes it up should be identified by their co-workers and either put into a substance abuse program or outright fired. The guy in the video who drank before work and stumbles through the front door who's had a suspended drivers license since 1999? Yeah, that guy's an alcoholic and should not be part of any manufacturing of anything that goes into the public. That opens up Chrysler to major law suits.

    However the bigger issue here is, Chrysler says they have a Code of Conduct policy - yet, for some reason at this Trenton plant the people who tipped off the local Fox Channel apparently either didn't report it internally or, perhaps they did and nothing happened, or they were afraid to report it because they are fellow Union members. Therefore they felt it necessary to tip off the media who exposes these dumbasses so they get caught and fired. Why isn't this handled internally? And yes, someone somewhere in many corporations / jobs are using and abusing - however they don't all seem to congregate in some local open area to do it where camera's can expose them.

    Chrysler has to clean up their act and take care of this issue internally with their union... it's embarrassing and the optics clearly go negative where Chrysler is concerned when addicts are shown to work and abuse day after day at their own UAW local.... very embarrassing and incompetent.
    I agree with your first paragraph, but it's a bit more complex than just that. In any factory, we work with those people 8 + hours a day, and in fact see more of them than probably even our family. These are our friends, and if we report them, we are getting them fired. They are also the friends of many others in the factory, and snitches are not well treated by the friends of those snitched on.

    The thing to remember is this has nothing to do with unions. It happens in most factories, the bigger the factory, the more likely it happens and generally the easier it is to get away with.
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    Re: Chrysler UAW workers caught doping, drinking-----Again-----

    I work at a non union factory and this stuff happens all the time.
    Just saying.
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    Re: Chrysler UAW workers caught doping, drinking-----Again-----

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I agree with your first paragraph, but it's a bit more complex than just that. In any factory, we work with those people 8 + hours a day, and in fact see more of them than probably even our family. These are our friends, and if we report them, we are getting them fired. They are also the friends of many others in the factory, and snitches are not well treated by the friends of those snitched on.
    Normally that's true and in an office environment I think that 100% true. The difference here is the environment - these people aren't office workers they're on the assembly line - NOT snitching on these people could cost someone their life. So what's more important; not being seen as a snitch or potentially saving someone's life / limb? I say the latter.

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    The thing to remember is this has nothing to do with unions. It happens in most factories, the bigger the factory, the more likely it happens and generally the easier it is to get away with.
    In a minimal way it kinda does have something to do with the Unions since as the video showed, these Union workers were toking/boozing on the private property of the UAW building. That tells me they thought such a place was safer than a public park, which is where the previous batch of guys were filmed and subsequently fired. I agree it happens everywhere and the bigger the place, the easier it is to blend in and not be noticed but this sort of behavior was already outed once, did they think it couldn't happen again especially since from a media perspective, such stories go national like **** through a goose.
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    Re: Chrysler UAW workers caught doping, drinking-----Again-----

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I work at a non union factory and this stuff happens all the time.
    Just saying.

    Certainly it doesn't ONLY happen at union factories.
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    Re: Chrysler UAW workers caught doping, drinking-----Again-----

    I think what Badmutha is trying to say is, that we are all doomed, and that when you buy a Chrysler car, your kid is going to get high and drunk off of it. Or something, I dunno.
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    Re: Chrysler UAW workers caught doping, drinking-----Again-----

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Normally that's true and in an office environment I think that 100% true. The difference here is the environment - these people aren't office workers they're on the assembly line - NOT snitching on these people could cost someone their life. So what's more important; not being seen as a snitch or potentially saving someone's life / limb? I say the latter.
    Most factory work is not of the type you can get hurt doing. Machine shops, sure. Tool and Die, yup. Assembly plants, not so much. Injection molding plant, probably not(as workers, not setups, diesetters or maintenance). Metal stamping, oh yeah. I have been in a few auto factories and only 1 I think would having been impaired been really risky to health,

    In a minimal way it kinda does have something to do with the Unions since as the video showed, these Union workers were toking/boozing on the private property of the UAW building. That tells me they thought such a place was safer than a public park, which is where the previous batch of guys were filmed and subsequently fired. I agree it happens everywhere and the bigger the place, the easier it is to blend in and not be noticed but this sort of behavior was already outed once, did they think it couldn't happen again especially since from a media perspective, such stories go national like **** through a goose.
    The last factory I worked in(which rejected the UAW twice), people used to go and get stoned in the parking lot on break until finally the plant manager arrived way early one morning during our breaktime and saw them. it's not the union, it's where you can go that no one who will report you can see.
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    Re: Chrysler UAW workers caught doping, drinking-----Again-----

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    I think what Badmutha is trying to say is, that we are all doomed, and that when you buy a Chrysler car, your kid is going to get high and drunk off of it. Or something, I dunno.
    Let me ask.......would you let this guy work on your car..........



    ....after he smoked and drank his lunch?
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    Maybe when your older, smarter and less liberal, ......when you and your family are out driving in your Chrysler mini-van.........the point your missing is going to slap you upside the head like a mini-van with no brakes or airbags.
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    Re: Chrysler UAW workers caught doping, drinking-----Again-----

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    Let me ask.......would you let this guy work on your car..........



    ....after he smoked and drank his lunch?
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    Maybe when your older, smarter and less liberal, ......when you and your family are out driving in your Chrysler mini-van.........the point your missing is going to slap you upside the head like a mini-van with no brakes or airbags.
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    Not one person here is suggesting they be allowed to do this. You don't seem to realize this. Are you reading what people post or do you just have the whole conversation in your own head?
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    Re: Chrysler UAW workers caught doping, drinking-----Again-----

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    -chuckles- not sure what his point is ... but I'm confused ..
    It didnt look like much of a "jamboree" to me. It looked like 4 or 5 guys standing in a parking lot drinking from a beer bottle.

    aren't you one of the people that condemn the entire tea party movement because of the actions of a few ??
    No im not. And if you would look back on what i have said about the tea party and racism you would find out its quite the opposite. Sure there are probably racists in the Tea Party but that does not make the whole Tea Party racist....

    without any proof that it was more then one or two caught on film ???
    What is this supposed to mean?


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