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Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

I really hope Democrats and that pompous ass staining the Whitehouse keep this up........

"Your too Dumb America, to understand whats good for you"......we Democrat Kings and Liberal Lords need to keep spending your granchildren's grandhildren's money. You dont understand the consequences of not bankrupting this country.........

Coming on the heels of "We have to pass it, so you stupid American citizens can see whats in it"..........and crowd favorite "Why bother reading the bill, were cramming down your throats anyways"........

....2012 could make the 2010 conservative landslide look like an anthill.....
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I'm sorry, it's the White House's fault some people can't comprehend reality?
 
This is funny.

Obama Walks Out Of Tense Debt Ceiling Meeting: Reports

Politico reports that House Majority Leader Eric Cantor said the president stormed out of the negotiating session with top congressional lawmakers.

The Hill reports that House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi disputed Cantor's account of what occurred at the end of the meeting.

"Cantor's account of tonight's meeting is completely overblown," a House Democratic aide told HuffPost. "For someone who knows how to walk out of a meeting, you'd think he['d] know it when he saw it. Cantor rudely interrupted the President three times to advocate for short-term debt ceiling increases while the President was wrapping the meeting. This is just more juvenile behavior from him and Boehner needs to rein him in, and let the grown-ups get to work."
 
Seeing the President stomping his feet and running out of a room like the little man-child crybaby that he is........is funny.......but also scary.

Electing the most inexperienced president in history....a president who never ran so much as a lemonade stand.......might not have been such a good idea after all.
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I really hope Democrats and that pompous ass staining the Whitehouse keep this up........

"Your too Dumb America, to understand whats good for you"......we Democrat Kings and Liberal Lords need to keep spending your granchildren's grandhildren's money. You dont understand the consequences of not bankrupting this country.........

Coming on the heels of "We have to pass it, so you stupid American citizens can see whats in it"..........and crowd favorite "Why bother reading the bill, were cramming down your throats anyways"........

....2012 could make the 2010 conservative landslide look like an anthill.....
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it''s always a treat to see your beautifully crafted posts accusing others of being dumb.
 
He happens to be right about that...

no, he doesn't.

The $172 billion in revenues collected over the rest of the month can pay the $29 billion interest charges on the national debt, Social Security benefits ($49 billion), Medicaid and Medicare ($50 billion), active duty military pay ($2.9 billion), Department of Defense vendors ($31.7 billion), IRS refunds ($3.9 billion), and about a quarter of the $12.8 billion in unemployment checks due that month....
 
I don't even know how to respond to that sort of callous rhetoric and blatant disregard for the well-being of not only the country itself, but the people in it, and oneself.

"What you have done unto the least of these, you have also done unto me". - Jesus Christ
 
I agree with some of the others, I hope that the GOP doesn't back down and allows us to default. It will display even more convincingly to the American people that the GOP stands solely for the wealthiest Americans and that they are willing to destroy the middle class in the process. It will show more than ever that the GOP doesn't care about the common people.
 
Obama shows he is not a leader. A leader would bring the 2 sides together with a compromise. Obama's idea of compromise is Obama getting what he wants. He shows what a spoiled brat he is and how he is not presidential.

Obama is showing us why he should not get a second term

Obama wants the GOP to cave so he can lead this country deeper in debt
 
Obama shows he is not a leader. A leader would bring the 2 sides together with a compromise. Obama's idea of compromise is Obama getting what he wants. He shows what a spoiled brat he is and how he is not presidential.

Obama is showing us why he should not get a second term

Obama wants the GOP to cave so he can lead this country deeper in debt
Are you following along? Obama has been the ONLY one that has been willing to compromise....and as usual, the party of NO is content to do nothing. I hope that they continue in their ways and pay the wrath that comes as a result.
 
I agree with some of the others, I hope that the GOP doesn't back down and allows us to default. It will display even more convincingly to the American people that the GOP stands solely for the wealthiest Americans and that they are willing to destroy the middle class in the process. It will show more than ever that the GOP doesn't care about the common people.

Yeah, I feel like I"m in a win/win. Make that a triple win as it will also doubtless destroy some of their wealth, having America fail.
 
Are you following along? Obama has been the ONLY one that has been willing to compromise....and as usual, the party of NO is content to do nothing. I hope that they continue in their ways and pay the wrath that comes as a result.

Obama is not willing to compromise. If he was he would bringing the 2 sides together not making the gap worse
 
Yeah, I feel like I"m in a win/win. Make that a triple win as it will also doubtless destroy some of their wealth, having America fail.



We will not fail. You are believing the lies of Obama
 
Yeah, I feel like I"m in a win/win. Make that a triple win as it will also doubtless destroy some of their wealth, having America fail.

It's crazy... Obama spends all this money we are going bankrupt and now he won't compromise, doesn't have a plan and somehow he wants to make the reps. look bad on top of it while the reps. are just trying to SOLVE the problem since the dems. didn't pass a budget for 2 years while THEY were in CONTROL then, the only thing they did was spend money like crazy. Go figure who the crazy ones are.
 
If this poll is any indication, many Americans aren't aware of the consequences. If the **** hits the fan, they'll likely be singing a different tune. Regardless of what you think about our budgetary situation, not raising the debt limit would be shooting ourselves in the foot. It simply isn't worth it, IMO.

This is what liberals count on to maintain the status quo of spending us into oblivion. They don't want ceilings, they want endless spending forever. Is a ceiling a ceiling if you keep raising it? They treat the debt ceiling just like they treat the Constitution, a living thing.
 
So wait, when the government defaults, we stop collecting taxes? This fear mongering about uneducated childeren, veterans and old folks is just ignorant.
 
This is what liberals count on to maintain the status quo of spending us into oblivion. They don't want ceilings, they want endless spending forever. Is a ceiling a ceiling if you keep raising it? They treat the debt ceiling just like they treat the Constitution, a living thing.
Oh please. Republicans voted to raise the debt ceiling over a dozen times while Bush was president to the tune of 4 trillion dollars so that he could keep spending.

Your dog dudn't hunt.
 
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Obama is not willing to compromise. If he was he would bringing the 2 sides together not making the gap worse

Once again....you either aren't paying attention or don't understand what "compromise" is. Obama has agreed to all kinds of spending cuts.....yet, Republicans refuse to agree to tax increases. Compromise has to come from both sides.....something that you and the GOP don't seem to understand. Compromise is not something that the party of no understands.
 
Once again....you either aren't paying attention or don't understand what "compromise" is. Obama has agreed to all kinds of spending cuts.....yet, Republicans refuse to agree to tax increases. Compromise has to come from both sides.....something that you and the GOP don't seem to understand. Compromise is not something that the party of no understands.

What's the cuts he's agreed to in Medicare, which according to Mr. Obama is on the table. Got specifics?
 
Debt ceiling talks stalled again on Weds as each side continues to stand their ground. McConnell already blinked. How long before Cantor blinks?

Senator McConnell is trying to find a way to avoid a self-inflicted crisis. That his maneuver is likely not constitutional (a risk that it could be overturned at a subsequent time were it utilized) does not take away from his trying to help the nation avoid what would be an entirely self-inflicted crisis. It is incorrect and unfair to describe his trying to craft a fallback position as his "blinking."

Of course, it's easy for some of the pundits on the sidelines, who have no responsibility for the consequences of their rhetoric to posture without limitation. The policy makers, on the other hand, don't have that luxury. They are confronted with having to make a grave decision with an increasingly tight timeframe. They will bear the burden of the consequences of their decisions. Hence, it is the pundits who take the cowardly approach, as they have nothing at stake. It is policy makers such as Senator McConnell who take the more courageous path.

In fact, perhaps in part due to those very same loud elements on the sidelines, the opportunity for a "grand bargain" that was perhaps within reach, one that would have resulted in far more deficit reduction than is now likely, has been lost. Those loud elements wanted even more concessions than what is politically feasible at the time. Some of them wanted nothing less than total capitulation to their increasingly theological terms.

Aesop offers a fable of a dog carrying meat. When it was crossing a river, it saw its own reflection. Craving a second piece of meat, it lunged for the meat in the reflection. Consequently, it lost the meat it was carrying. More than likely the loud posturing from the sidelines led to a terrible overreach, a lunge for more fiscal meat. As a result, the opportunity for an imperfect but far more robust deficit-reduction package was lost. In coming days or weeks, once the political fury of the current moment dies down, a relative mouse of a deal will more than likely emerge.

As a consequence, the nation will likely remain on an unsustainable fiscal trajectory. Ironically, those who have been yelling loudest from the sidelines in pursuit of almost theological terms ("thou shalt not raise any taxes whatsoever" and "thou shalt not touch any entitlement programs whatsoever"), some of whom claim to crave fiscal responsibility, will have contributed to the loss of perhaps several trillion dollar in foregone fiscal savings. As they don't bear the responsibility for their actions, the outcome will be of little consequence for them. They will posture on when the occasion presents itself. In the meantime, the nation will bear the direct consquences of foregone fiscal consolidation.
 
What's the cuts he's agreed to in Medicare, which according to Mr. Obama is on the table. Got specifics?

Can you name even one compromise that the GOP has agreed to....even one?
 
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