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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Once again....you either aren't paying attention or don't understand what "compromise" is. Obama has agreed to all kinds of spending cuts.....yet, Republicans refuse to agree to tax increases. Compromise has to come from both sides.....something that you and the GOP don't seem to understand. Compromise is not something that the party of no understands.
    Republicans have been willing to compromise on both cutting spending and adding tax revenue.

    It is Obama that has been unable to compromise on the revenue side, demanding that any plan do so by raising taxes on the rich. This is irrational from a deficit reduction view, and only makes sense from a political point of view.

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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Current CBO projections predict that eight years of Obama will add more debt than Bush II, Bush I, Reagan, and Ford combined - and yes, that's correcting for GDP.
    In 2010 alone, the increase in debt/GDP was 30% higher then Bush's entire first term.

    The pace at which debt is being added is what is important, not the number of times the debt ceiling has been raised.
    The debt under Bush nearly doubled and the debt limit was raised 7 times.

    The debt under Reagan nearly tripled and the debt limit was raised 17 times.

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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    How about you, can you? I highly doubt it.
    I already have.....Obama and the Democrats have agreed to many spending cuts.......can you name one area the GOP has compromised....are as usual are you going to engage in your circular shuffling?
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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Republicans have been willing to compromise on both cutting spending and adding tax revenue.

    It is Obama that has been unable to compromise on the revenue side, demanding that any plan do so by raising taxes on the rich. This is irrational from a deficit reduction view, and only makes sense from a political point of view.
    Oh really? What have the GOP agreed to on adding tax revenue?
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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I already have.....Obama and the Democrats have agreed to many spending cuts.......can you name one area the GOP has compromised....are as usual are you going to engage in your circular shuffling?

    Didn't they campaign on spending cuts? how is it a compromise to agree to do what you promised to do? fail.
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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Wrong. Obama and the Democrats have agreed to many spending cuts, not medicare itself, but cuts to many others. Can you name a single compromise by the Party of No? I highly doubt it.
    Not medicare itself... not social security itself... YET:

    Quote Originally Posted by RAW STORY via Reuters
    Obama will propose cuts in Social Security and major reductions in Medicare, which mark a major shift for the White House, The Washington Post reported late on Wednesday, citing people in both parties with knowledge of the proposal.

    In exchange, Obama would seek Republican support for increasing tax revenues, the Post reported.
    Republicans have offered loopholes in as far as Obama has offered Medicare/Social Security. So don't start throwing Medicare and Social Security cuts around when you and I both know that's as much BS as Republicans saying they've got Taxes on the table.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post

    Republicans have been willing to compromise on both cutting spending and adding tax revenue.
    But Republican Boehner said that tax increases are a nonstarter: "The American people will not accept -- and the House cannot pass -- a bill that raises taxes on job creators."

    President Obama challenges GOP to compromise on debt | cleveland.com

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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    In fact, perhaps in part due to those very same loud elements on the sidelines, the opportunity for a "grand bargain" that was perhaps within reach, one that would have resulted in far more deficit reduction than is now likely, has been lost. Those loud elements wanted even more concessions than what is politically feasible at the time. Some of them wanted nothing less than total capitulation to their increasingly theological terms.
    That is what most of America is reacting to. The bolded bit.

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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I already have.....Obama and the Democrats have agreed to many spending cuts.......can you name one area the GOP has compromised....are as usual are you going to engage in your circular shuffling?
    Exactly. There have been anywhere from 1.5 to 2.3 TRILLION in deep cuts, on the table, at any given time, and the republicans fold their arms and jut their chins. No ciento.

    **** you very much, congress critters.

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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Exactly. There have been anywhere from 1.5 to 2.3 TRILLION in deep cuts, on the table, at any given time, and the republicans fold their arms and jut their chins. No ciento.

    **** you very much, congress critters.
    A drop in the ocean. I've seen the total U.S. debt obligation between 50 Trillion and 60 Trillion dollars depending on what source is being used and when the numbers were collected. Even with 14 Trillion in debt as of today, the 2.3 Trillion in "deep cuts" over the next 10 years, the U.S. will have added 5x that amount of debt.

    No... the answer is no ciento exactly. Balance the budget Obama, produce a budget that lives up to your rhetoric - oh that's right you CAN'T because you're too busy trying to look good and get re-elected.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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