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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Reading further....12 billion in income 32 billion in committed spending.

    Something is seriously wrong with this picture. If it means we must actually take serious actions to address this picture, I'm all for it.

    We definately should take the hit now so others don't continually have to for years to come.
    So you're saying you're ok with us being unable to educate our children indefinitely? You're ok with the FBI being discontinued and terrorism being allowed to flow into our borders? You're ok with plunging us and the world into a depression unlike anyone living has ever known?

    This is not a "hit" in the sense of tightening your belt and buying the cheap pasta. This would be a complete meltdown of our entire country. There are better ways to do this. You're basically proposing that someone commit suicide as a solution to credit card debt. That is beyond insane.

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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    So you're saying you're ok with us being unable to educate our children indefinitely? You're ok with the FBI being discontinued and terrorism being allowed to flow into our borders? You're ok with plunging us and the world into a depression unlike anyone living has ever known?
    None of those things would come to pass post 8/2.

    Biggest hit would probably be SS/Medicaid/Medicare.
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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeezy View Post
    None of those things would come to pass post 8/2.

    Biggest hit would probably be SS/Medicaid/Medicare.
    Really depends on how things are prioritized. The only things I think are untouchable would be interest payments on the debt, and perhaps military paychecks. Everything else would likely be on the table.

    Not to mention about $500 billion worth of bonds mature in the month of August. The Treasury might have a hell of a time trying to roll that over. At the very least they'll have to raise interest rates to attract buyers.
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Really depends on how things are prioritized. The only things I think are untouchable would be interest payments on the debt, and perhaps military paychecks. Everything else would likely be on the table.
    Regardless of priorities, the FBI will not be "discontinued."
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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeezy View Post
    None of those things would come to pass post 8/2.

    Biggest hit would probably be SS/Medicaid/Medicare.
    Ok. So you're ok with old people starving to death or others dying of treatable conditions. Tell me how that's better.

    In addition, it wouldn't be enough. There would need to be hits elsewhere as well. Police forces, schools, and security would probably all take a hit. Some districts have already dropped to a 4-day school week because they can't afford 5 days a week. How many of them would close down all together? There already places cutting or closing down their police forces.

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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    cure can be found in other ways. If the American people, at large, are serious about the problem, then I believe it'll be solved.
    I've seen nobody address the cure so I'm all for forcing the cure.

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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeezy View Post
    Regardless of priorities, the FBI will not be "discontinued."
    Agreed that Mistress was being a bit dramatic.

    Personally, I'd emphasize the fact that a sudden 44% decrease in government spending would be a serious negative shock to the economy.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    I've seen nobody address the cure so I'm all for forcing the cure.
    It ain't worth it, man.

    It's always easier to say no until you have to own up to the consequences.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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