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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Too true. The Republicans were perfectly willing to shove seniors over a cliff. Obama was just the messenger.


    Messenger of what? deciet?


    Tell me, given the amount of taxes collected each month, who will be paid before seniors, veterans, and military? Why is it none of you will touch this question with a 10 foot pole?
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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Messenger of what? deciet?


    Tell me, given the amount of taxes collected each month, who will be paid before seniors, veterans, and military? Why is it none of you will touch this question with a 10 foot pole?
    Perhaps the position will have to be taken that NEARLY ALL of the remaining government income must be used to pay the deficit and nobody can be paid due to GOP refusal to extend the debt ceiling endangering our credit rating and worldwide economic stability. That would leave no monty to pay the people you listed.
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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Perhaps the position will have to be taken that NEARLY ALL of the remaining government income must be used to pay the deficit and nobody can be paid due to GOP refusal to extend the debt ceiling endangering our credit rating and worldwide economic stability. That would leave no monty to pay the people you listed.



    Seems your president is backing off his claims. Maybe hurt his re-election chances.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_1...35-503544.html


    that said, is there any coorborating opinion out there with your speculation? Do you really think your president would deprive seniors, veterans, and the military of pay in order to win a stalemate?


    The republicans are standing hard on real cuts, not lip service and houdini cuts that amount to pissing in the ocean over 10 years. I agree with them and there stance on this one, we can't afford the government we built, it's time for real cuts.


    And there is no way, Obama would withold checks from these folks given the amount of revenue we are taking in at this point. Remember we pay into SS as well, we well some of us like me served our nation, are owed as much as any debtor is owed. do you really think obama would make such an extremist choice?
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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    People like Reverend Hellh0und don't get it....they would rather engaging in their circular shuffle games than address the real issues.
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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    People like Reverend Hellh0und don't get it....they would rather engaging in their circular shuffle games than address the real issues.


    so SS will not be paid, this is in jeopardy by the 2nd? And Obama's hard demands if true, are not equally to blame as the republicans demands?
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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    People like Reverend Hellh0und don't get it....they would rather engaging in their circular shuffle games than address the real issues.
    You are correct. There are a very sad group of people who have drunk so much ideological kool-aid that they will never get it. The even sadder part is they are trying to make kool-aid the national drink for the rest of America.
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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    so SS will not be paid, this is in jeopardy by the 2nd? And Obama's hard demands if true, are not equally to blame as the republicans demands?
    Well, I thought we were told that S.S. was an account all of it's own. I'm not sure why if it is and it's still fully funded why it wouldn't be paid out. Maybe someone can explain.

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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Well, I thought we were told that S.S. was an account all of it's own. I'm not sure why if it is and it's still fully funded why it wouldn't be paid out. Maybe someone can explain.


    I can't see anyway that any politician or president would let the folks such as veterans, seniors, and military not get paid even if there was a default, they would ALL be thrown out of office.
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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    so SS will not be paid, this is in jeopardy by the 2nd? And Obama's hard demands if true, are not equally to blame as the republicans demands?
    What are Obama's demands that are holding it up? Obama is willing to work on a deal....it is the party of No that is hijacking the process in order to protect the wealthiest among us...and they are willing to hold everyone else hostage. Its typical of Republican tactics....and I hope they succeed because I think they will pay dearly. Look at polling around the country. Most Americans get it.
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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    What are Obama's demands that are holding it up? Obama is willing to work on a deal....it is the party of No that is hijacking the process in order to protect the wealthiest among us...and they are willing to hold everyone else hostage. Its typical of Republican tactics....and I hope they succeed because I think they will pay dearly. Look at polling around the country. Most Americans get it.
    Most Americans get it. Even the GOP gets it. They know they fubar'd their way right out of office. They could have had an amazing deal, more than once - but they refused to negotiate and now they are just this side of screwed. Sucks to be them.

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