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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post

    No very little takes affect now.
    That's not what you said either. You said:
    "Yes but what good are cuts when Obama has them take affect in 10 years?" ~ ptif219
    You're only changing what you said now that your confusion was put in the spotlight.

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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    That's not what you said either. You said:
    "Yes but what good are cuts when Obama has them take affect in 10 years?" ~ ptif219
    You're only changing what you said now that your confusion was put in the spotlight.
    The cuts do not happen completely for 10 years. There will be very few now under Obama

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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post

    The cuts do not happen completely for 10 years. There will be very few now under Obama
    You're 0 for 3, that's not what you said either. You said:
    "Yes but what good are cuts when Obama has them take affect in 10 years?" ~ ptif219
    You're only changing what you said now that your confusion was put in the spotlight.

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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    That's what I'm trying to figure out. Republicans were spending like crazy 10 years ago. They gave us record deficits (at that time), they repeatedly raised the debt limit to accommodate their increases to the national debt. Only now that we have a Democrat in the White House is debt a problem for them.

    It certainly wasn't a problem for them as Reagan tripled the debt. They had no problem raising the debt ceiling 17 times to accommodate his spending.

    And it certainly wasn't a problem for them as Bush doubled the debt. They had no problem raising the debt ceiling 7 times to accommodate his spending.

    Republicans are largely to blame for the debt being as high as it is (60% of the debt came under Republican presidents) but it seemns to me they are now complaining about the mess they made in order to convince America that a Democrat in the White House is the problem.
    I'll ignore your lil b bopper fan cause she never adds anything to the discussion

    I'm not disagreeing with you . the republicans have acted more like the Democrats in recent years .. spending like there is no tomorrow well tomorrow has arrived ..

    Now personally .. you or anyone can blame anyone you want it doesn't change the facts of where we are nearly 15 trillion dollars in debt .. and rising .. someone has to take a stand .. it clearly isn't going to be democrats .. we had 4 years of their spending and policy and it certainly hasn't curbed spending now has it ???

    I don't care why the republicans are taking a stand .. and you shouldn't either .. someone has to...... we can't keep going down this road of destruction. Obama and the Dems certainly are showing no signs of even slowing their spending (I'm sorry the new term is investing) If they are doing it because there is a Democrat in the white house or not .. I really don't care .. all I care about is someone is trying to do something about the debt and our deficit .. pointing fingers isn't going to get it done .. it's really as simple as that .

    As for who controls the white house after 2012 it doesn't really matter .. all the talk about who is going to win is a joke . here is the simple fact .. the senate .. has 34 seats up for grabs in 2012 23 of them belong to democrats 11 to republicans a 50 / 50 split means Republicans take over the senate .. controlling the house and the senate .. means Obama is a lame duck . and only has his veto powers ..

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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    I guess you missed Obama threats to not pay SS checks in August
    It wasn't "threats", it was the honest reality. The Republicans are willing to hold the elderly and the disabled hostage in order to protect the pockets of the wealthiest. It should be clear to everyone which party represents which interests.
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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    It wasn't "threats", it was the honest reality. The Republicans are willing to hold the elderly and the disabled hostage in order to protect the pockets of the wealthiest. It should be clear to everyone which party represents which interests.


    Omg stop with the hysterics for once....


    how much money do we take in per month throught taxes?

    Who is going to be paid by this money before the seniors, the veterans and the military?


    FAIL.
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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    It wasn't "threats", it was the honest reality. The Republicans are willing to hold the elderly and the disabled hostage in order to protect the pockets of the wealthiest. It should be clear to everyone which party represents which interests.
    Not to mention that Republicans were willing to lose our credit rating, shake the world markets - wait, maybe not that one. Maybe once it became obvious that this could actually adversely affect THEIR wealth, the rusty wheels finally started turning.

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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Omg stop with the hysterics for once....


    how much money do we take in per month throught taxes?

    Who is going to be paid by this money before the seniors, the veterans and the military?


    FAIL.
    Sorry Rev.....I mean...Reverend Hellh0und.....you call it hysterics, the rest of it call it reality. The GOP refuses to cut the military and plays the fear card whenever it is proposed and yet, the military eats up over 50% of the total budget. So, you can't balance the budget on spending cuts alone....THAT is just the simple reality. But the GOP cannot stomach the thoughts of their millionaire and billionaire cohorts cutting back on their caviar and truffles....and they are willing to hold seniors, the disabled and the entire middle class hostage to ensure that they won't have to.
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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Sorry Rev.....I mean...Reverend Hellh0und.....you call it hysterics, the rest of it call it reality. The GOP refuses to cut the military and plays the fear card whenever it is proposed and yet, the military eats up over 50% of the total budget. So, you can't balance the budget on spending cuts alone....THAT is just the simple reality. But the GOP cannot stomach the thoughts of their millionaire and billionaire cohorts cutting back on their caviar and truffles....and they are willing to hold seniors, the disabled and the entire middle class hostage to ensure that they won't have to.


    Caviar and truffles!!!!!


    hysterics....


    Why did you avoid answering my direct question? too hard to fit in with your agenda of deception....
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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Sorry Rev.....I mean...Reverend Hellh0und.....you call it hysterics, the rest of it call it reality. The GOP refuses to cut the military and plays the fear card whenever it is proposed and yet, the military eats up over 50% of the total budget. So, you can't balance the budget on spending cuts alone....THAT is just the simple reality. But the GOP cannot stomach the thoughts of their millionaire and billionaire cohorts cutting back on their caviar and truffles....and they are willing to hold seniors, the disabled and the entire middle class hostage to ensure that they won't have to.
    Too true. The Republicans were perfectly willing to shove seniors over a cliff. Obama was just the messenger.

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