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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by nonpareil View Post
    Well, what about the people hoping that the GDP will "destroy the middle class" so that their view of the GDP will be justified?

    Prey that Boehner can get his people in line and raise the debt-ceiling, anything else and we're heading into another bad recessions with some people guaranteed to lose their livelihood and homes.
    FFS dude. Nobody is hoping that. The sound you hear is people trying to make peace with the fact that we are screwed.

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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Debt ceiling: financial world warns Washington to hurry up - CSMonitor.com

    Moody, followed by Standard & Poor have already made it very clear that we don't want to do this.

    Even China has weighed in.
    Moody no longer is credible. Where were they when the housing collapse happened?

    Panel examines Moody

    Moody's bungled ratings on community bank bonds, too | McClatchy

    Where was Moody's board when top-rated bonds blew up? | McClatchy

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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    A very nice strawman... congratulations!



    So where's the specifics of medicare and social security compromises that are, according to Obama, on the table? Oh, that's right... there are no specifics.
    I like how you keep moving the goal posts. Another poster pointed out that Democrats have been willing to cut spending between 1.5 and 2.3 trillion.

    You whine that's not enough but when I point out at least that is a compromise, you shift the goal posts to what are the "specifics."

    They've compromised. Where is that on the Republican side of the aisle. Seems to me you keep shifting the goal posts because you know the Republicans are not willing to compromise.

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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    I like how you keep moving the goal posts. Another poster pointed out that Democrats have been willing to cut spending between 1.5 and 2.3 trillion.

    You whine that's not enough but when I point out at least that is a compromise, you shift the goal posts to what are the "specifics."

    They've compromised. Where is that on the Republican side of the aisle. Seems to me you keep shifting the goal posts because you know the Republicans are not willing to compromise.
    Yes but what good are cuts when Obama has them take affect in 10 years?

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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by Red Crow View Post
    It's crazy... Obama spends all this money we are going bankrupt and now he won't compromise, doesn't have a plan and somehow he wants to make the reps. look bad on top of it while the reps. are just trying to SOLVE the problem since the dems. didn't pass a budget for 2 years while THEY were in CONTROL then, the only thing they did was spend money like crazy. Go figure who the crazy ones are.
    How did "the dems" "spend money like crazy" if they didn't pass a budget? Do you understand how the US government works?
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    And I wasn't making an appeal to authority, I was making an appeal to the philosophical body of work of the founders, the worth and content of which should be well-known to anyone with a cursory understanding of basic history and philosophy.

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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Tell that to the people in the currency market. The dollar fell swiftly after the moody's warning of a downgrade.
    Quote Originally Posted by Free_Radical View Post

    And I wasn't making an appeal to authority, I was making an appeal to the philosophical body of work of the founders, the worth and content of which should be well-known to anyone with a cursory understanding of basic history and philosophy.

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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by nonpareil View Post
    How did "the dems" "spend money like crazy" if they didn't pass a budget? Do you understand how the US government works?
    That is why they did not pass a budget. Now they can spend without having to deal with a budget. They had the stimulus for one thing

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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by nonpareil View Post
    Tell that to the people in the currency market. The dollar fell swiftly after the moody's warning of a downgrade.


    I take it you did not read the links.

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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    FFS dude. Nobody is hoping that. The sound you hear is people trying to make peace with the fact that we are screwed.
    Let's hope that's the case then.

    What's FFS?
    Quote Originally Posted by Free_Radical View Post

    And I wasn't making an appeal to authority, I was making an appeal to the philosophical body of work of the founders, the worth and content of which should be well-known to anyone with a cursory understanding of basic history and philosophy.

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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Moody no longer is credible. Where were they when the housing collapse happened?
    China warns U.S.: Solve debt default crisis - now

    China, the U.S.'s biggest foreign creditor, with more than $1 trillion in Treasury debt as of March, called on the U.S. government Thursday to adopt responsible policies to protect investor interests.

    The Chinese Foreign Ministry's comments followed a warning by Moody's Investors Service that it might strip the United States of its gold-plated credit rating in coming weeks if the $14.3 trillion limit on America's borrowing was not raised.

    The prospect of a cut in the U.S.'s AAA credit rating hit stocks prices globally, and weakened the dollar. Gold prices pushed to a record high as investors saw the precious metal as a safer place for their cash.
    But none of this matters, right? You'll just decide that China's no big, and we're invincible. Right?

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