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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Wrong. Obama and the Democrats have agreed to many spending cuts, not medicare itself, but cuts to many others. Can you name a single compromise by the Party of No? I highly doubt it.
    the Republicans are willing to cut pretty much anything - their only position is that we should cut an equal or greater amount to that which we raise the debt limit. That's it.

    Instead, on top of insisting that Republicans pass tax hikes that not even the Democrats were willing to put their name on last December, Obama and Congressional Democrats are insisting on additional spending.

    Democrats proposed extending unemployment insurance for another 99 weeks at a cost of $43 billion. In addition, they requested another $10 billion to spend on research projects overseen by the National Institutes of Health. Democrats have not, Kyl says, offered to offset the new spending with additional cuts.

    These measures come on top of the increased spending Democrats proposed in negotiations led by Vice President Joe Biden, which included a $33 billion increase in Pell Grant funding and $27 billion — a number Kyl says was never explained and is much higher than Republican estimations — for the so-called “doc fix” to restore Medicare payments to physicians.

    Another point of contention in the talks, Kyl explains, is that roughly 75 percent of the “savings” proposed in non-health-care mandatory spending are achieved through revenue mechanisms such as fee increases, which technically aren’t classified as tax hikes, but certainly highlight the Democrats’ fundamental unwillingness to reduce spending. Kyl says at this point he can identify only about $55 billion in actual reductions to federal spending....



    these people want to increase spending and taxes... and they want Republicans to do it for them?

    they are out of their minds. Republicans aren't going to commit suicide just because the President is willing to go past Aug 2. On Aug 3 everyone get's their Social Security payments and the President is shown for the community agitator he has been acting like.

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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Right you are, Ken! I do wonder.
    Yes I'm sure you do .... but while you are wondering, tell me this ... are you going to be able to change what happened back in 2001 ?? or 2005 ? ... or even 2009? This is the fun part about dealing with the liberal mind ... there are no new ideas ... except Bush did it .. or it's Bush's fault ...

    Sooner or later someone has to take a stand .. . it appears it's the Republicans .... at least trying to make a dent in deficit spending .... and the liberal response .. ohhh them bastards .. how dare they ... we need to spend more .. tax more .. and keep trodding on down the destructive path we are on ... because Bush did it ... and .... and ... and ... . well .. because it's Bush's fault .. great solution liberals ....

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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Republican's idea of "compromise" is "GIVE US EVERYTHING THAT WE WANT.....or we will hold the middle class hostage". Sorry....but that ain't "Compromise".
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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Republican's idea of "compromise" is "GIVE US EVERYTHING THAT WE WANT.....or we will hold the middle class hostage". Sorry....but that ain't "Compromise".
    Check out Colbert's perceptions of what's going on. Too funny.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/genera...ls-scheme.html

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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Once again....you either aren't paying attention or don't understand what "compromise" is. Obama has agreed to all kinds of spending cuts.....yet, Republicans refuse to agree to tax increases. Compromise has to come from both sides.....something that you and the GOP don't seem to understand. Compromise is not something that the party of no understands.
    No Obama agreed to his spending cuts and raising taxes. That is not compromise that is being a bully

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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Wrong. Obama and the Democrats have agreed to many spending cuts, not medicare itself, but cuts to many others. Can you name a single compromise by the Party of No? I highly doubt it.
    Are they cuts the GOP wanted?

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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Exactly. There have been anywhere from 1.5 to 2.3 TRILLION in deep cuts, on the table, at any given time, and the republicans fold their arms and jut their chins. No ciento.

    **** you very much, congress critters.
    Obama wants them to happen years from now

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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Hi Tim. How come Conservatives didn't feel this way back in the 2000's when Bush and the Republican-led Congress were generating record-setting deficits for years, increasing the debt ceiling repeatedly, and on their way to nearly doubling the debt?
    They did they voted the GOP out in 2006

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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Republican's idea of "compromise" is "GIVE US EVERYTHING THAT WE WANT.....or we will hold the middle class hostage". Sorry....but that ain't "Compromise".
    Obama's idea of compromise is the GOP must cave or I will make the old people pay

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    Re: Breaking: Obama Warns Cantor 'Don't Call My Bluff' As Debt Talks Stall

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    No Obama agreed to his spending cuts and raising taxes. That is not compromise that is being a bully
    No, but what you're doing right now is called being hyper-partisan. The Republicans want cuts. Obama gave them cuts and taxes in return. They said no, and demanded he gives them what he wants. Ergo, Obama presented a counter offer, which included parts of what Republicans wanted, along with parts of what Democrats want.

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