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    Re: Bachmann pledges to ban pornography

    Quote Originally Posted by madman View Post
    Only from a religious idiot!
    We have more important things to worry about.

    There's no way that she will get the nom.



    BREAKING: Bachmann pledges to ban pornography | ThinkProgress

    Bachmann became the first presidential candidate to sign a pledge created by THE FAMiLY LEADER, an influential social-conservative group in Iowa. By signing the pledge Bachmann “vows” to “uphold the institution of marriage as only between one man and one woman” by committing herself to 14 specifics steps. The ninth step calls for the banning of “all forms” of pornography. The pledge also states that homosexuality is both a choice and a health risk. You can read all the details of the pledge here.
    sounds like my mom.
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    Re: Bachmann pledges to ban pornography

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    sounds like my mom.
    I sympathize with your plight.
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    Re: Bachmann pledges to ban pornography

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    You know, I've heard a lot of euphemisms for children in my brief time on Earth. That is definitely the worst one I've ever heard.
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    Re: Bachmann pledges to ban pornography

    Quote Originally Posted by Swizz View Post
    I mean, I'm only focusing on it because that's the thread we're in. I just think it's hypocrisy. It's hardly the biggest issue I have with Bachmann, or the biggest issue facing our country (or even top 10). Just offering my take on it.
    It's not that hypocritical. Perhaps foolish, but not hypocritical.
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    Re: Bachmann pledges to ban pornography

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Actually it does not. Look at the list, notice they all hold something in common. It's talking about being in porn, and it is talking about with that point, children.
    The text doesn't support separating "women" from "the innocent fruit of conjugal intimacy." They are compounded together in that sentence.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Bachmann pledges to ban pornography

    Quote Originally Posted by madman View Post
    Sounds like that's an issue for YOU and YOU alone. I assume you agree with Ms. Bachmann?
    I don't think I agree with her on that one. You can't stop it. If she succeeds, all it will do is create a black market for it. It's like trying to ban whiskey. That didn't work either. There's something else for organized crime to peddle and put an exorbitant price on it.

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    Re: Bachmann pledges to ban pornography

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    It's not that hypocritical. Perhaps foolish, but not hypocritical.
    Agree to disagree I guess. Again...how is it NOT hypocritical? We have perhaps the most blatantly anti-government candidate in the race outside of Ron Paul...supporting government regulation, or controls of some kind, on pornography of all things. If you're so anti-government, I would think you would be even MORE anti-government about something as insignificant as this one. Does this not fly in the face of everything she stands for? If Barack Obama proposed a comprehensive porn regulation bill, do you think she would lock arms with him and support it?

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    Re: Bachmann pledges to ban pornography

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    Right, but you're missing the point. Michele Bachmann has made it her platform that just about any and all government intervention is harmful to our freedom. I don't see how this issue should be any different??
    Why not use quotes rather than interpreting the candidates position yourself?
    Barack Obama never ran on the idea of "all government is good", so it's not really hypocritical for him to think x or y shouldn't be solved by government intervention. Bachmann, however, IS running on the idea that "government is bad", so for her to take an issue as inconsequential and small as pornography and inject government intervention into it gives me great pause; if she thinks the government needs to solve that small "problem", who's to say how she will react to bigger problems? How genuine can she actually be if she can't even leave the issue of pornography alone? I'm no Ron Paul fan, but I respect him because he is extremely consistent in his beliefs. Bachmann is no Romney, to be sure, but stuff like this leads me to believe that she is not as genuine as she would have us believe.
    All candidates run on the idea that they will improve on the present situation, as Barrack Obama once did and is doing once again. Few would run, and be successful, if they vowed to continue with the policies of their political opponents. This is where the electorate comes in. They have to decide what is important to the future of their country and what the issues really are.

    That would exclude the interests of any political party to which, in the juvenile spirit of home team enthusiasm, they had earlier attached themselves. If you allow yourself to be swayed by signing a meaningless bit of wishful thinking, rather than looking at the real issues, then the United States is consigning itself to further debt, despair and disappointment.
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    Re: Bachmann pledges to ban pornography

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Why not use quotes rather than interpreting the candidates position yourself?
    I did, in this very thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by Swizz View Post
    "I want my candidacy for the presidency to stand for the moment when "we the people" reclaimed our independence from a government that has gotten too big, spends too much and has taken away too much of our liberty."

    - Michele Bachmann's presidential campaign launch

    This is my problem with conservatives. They say they're for less government involvement, but they're really just for less government involvement in areas they don't like.

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    Re: Bachmann pledges to ban pornography

    Since it was mentioned...I don't understand women who restrict their men, especially in regards to something that isn't detrimental to the woman or doesn't require direct sacrifice. If I'm okay with porn, that means when I'm not in the mood I don't have to feel guilty because he's still got access to any number of videos and images and can take care of himself without my involvment. And I know he won't feel the need to be ashamed or hide things from me of a sexual nature..so it's a win-win for me and a win-win for him.
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