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    Re: Republicans are acting like vandals

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    Alright alright........

    ANY PIECE OF DEMOCRAT LEGISLATION IN US HISTORY........That cut spending?

    ....but they are really going to cut spending this time.....no really Randel....they promised....
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    and they should make cuts , BUT, they should expect, and WE AS A COUNTRY, AS A WHOLE, should expect the republicans to get with the game plan and quit screwing around and pretending that tax increases are not needed.. ...i want some significant money to be chopped from this budget, i also want some tax increases, and those should be targeted to the top earners in this country...the repubs are hell bent on protecting their biggest contributors, and hell bent on screwing over everyone else...to ever balance this budget will require considerable give on both sides, or it wont happen..if repubs want significant cuts, they should expect to have support some tax increases.... a deal like that gives both sides political cover...the repubs are out of their damn minds if they think they are going to get something without giving something. contrary to the kool-aid you have been drinking/snorting/injecting, our ledger has two sides, we need cuts and increased revenue, you squeeze this budget problem from both ends and you get it to meet in the middle. if all you have to offer for this is blah blah blah liberal blah blah blah democrat, then move on, i'm not interested in hearing it from you....
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    Re: Republicans are acting like vandals

    Obama calls the GOP’s bluff - The Washington Post

    LOVE IT.

    Here’s how to negotiate, GOP-style: Begin by making outrageous demands. Bully your opponents into giving you almost all of what you want. Rather than accept the deal, add a host of radical new demands. Observe casually that you wouldn’t want anything bad to happen to the hostage you’ve taken — the nation’s well-being. To the extent possible, look and sound like Jack Nicholson in “The Shining.”

    This strategy has worked so well for Republicans that it’s no surprise they’re using it again, this time in the unnecessary fight over what should be a routine increase in the debt ceiling. This time, however, something different is happening: President Obama seems to be channeling Robert De Niro in “Taxi Driver.” At a news conference last Wednesday, Obama’s response to the GOP was, essentially, “You talkin’ to me?”

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    Re: Republicans are acting like vandals

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Republicans are acting like vandals | The Australian

    Perception from the land down under.
    Just to play along. how are democrats taking responsibility for paying back our debt. The squabble is where to find savings of 2-4 trillion over the next 10 years. This will still create more debt over this period. Neither side has taken the high ground in this debate as far as I am concerned. Even this trivial 2-4 trillion, neither side has put forth their recommendation on how to do it.

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    Re: Republicans are acting like vandals

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Just to play along. how are democrats taking responsibility for paying back our debt. The squabble is where to find savings of 2-4 trillion over the next 10 years. This will still create more debt over this period. Neither side has taken the high ground in this debate as far as I am concerned. Even this trivial 2-4 trillion, neither side has put forth their recommendation on how to do it.
    Seriously? I'm sorry. I do appreciate you taking the time to post. But I get tired of posting over and over and over again that the democrats already did the "meet you halfway" bit. I don't want to go dig up the URL's and quotes again. The information is out there. Hell, Australia has it. They know that the democrats offered deep cuts, and got nothing in return but the republicans walking out on the talks.

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    Re: Republicans are acting like vandals

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    and they should make cuts , BUT, they should expect, and WE AS A COUNTRY, AS A WHOLE, should expect the republicans to get with the game plan and quit screwing around and pretending that tax increases are not needed.. ..
    And you think that tax increases are going to magically raise revenues huh? Raising taxes right now could very well end up causing a decline in revenues.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-par...-tax-cuts.html

    Spending cuts and tax cuts will solve our economic ills........


    .i want some significant money to be chopped from this budget, i also want some tax increases, and those should be targeted to the top earners in this country...the repubs are hell bent on protecting their biggest contributors, and hell bent on screwing over everyone else...to ever balance this budget will require considerable give on both sides, or it wont happen..if repubs want significant cuts, they should expect to have support some tax increases.... a deal like that gives both sides political cover...the repubs are out of their damn minds if they think they are going to get something without giving something. contrary to the kool-aid you have been drinking/snorting/injecting, our ledger has two sides, we need cuts and increased revenue, you squeeze this budget problem from both ends and you get it to meet in the middle. if all you have to offer for this is blah blah blah liberal blah blah blah democrat, then move on, i'm not interested in hearing it from you....
    They cant cut a Cowboy Poetry Contest Randel..........for the love of your not yet bankrup--but close--grandchildren's grandchildren..........please realize the Democrat Party is never....ever......ever going to deliver the significant cuts you and every other American is looking for.......because Democrats have never made a significant cut to anything in this country's history......
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    Re: Republicans are acting like vandals

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Ya know...I keep hearing this bull**** $2 trillion in cuts. Its over 10 years. Its $200billion. Im also willing to bet that those numbers can be raised or lowered at congressional whim.

    We need to cut baseline budgets. Dems dont want that. We need to cut discretionary spending. Dems dont want that. We need to stop talking about rate of growth as thought its a cut. A CUT is cutting it from this years budget. Dems dont want that either. After all they just got through increasing the baseline budget for two years, cutting it back by 3% then blaming the GOP seems to be the gameplan. Class warfare with shifty accounting, such leadership.

    Keep touting that $10 trillion, its smoke and mirrors and if you really thought about it, you'd know that.
    We need to stop all the wars in the Mid East and Africa. We can no longer afford them. They must end. We have spent enough money in Afghanistan to make every people in the country a millionaire. We must stop the wars and stop the occupation. Why have you not mentioned that?










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    Re: Republicans are acting like vandals

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    And you think that tax increases are going to magically raise revenues huh? Raising taxes right now could very well end up causing a decline in revenues.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-par...-tax-cuts.html

    Spending cuts and tax cuts will solve our economic ills........




    They cant cut a Cowboy Poetry Contest Randel..........for the love of your not yet bankrup--but close--grandchildren's grandchildren..........please realize the Democrat Party is never....ever......ever going to deliver the significant cuts you and every other American is looking for.......because Democrats have never made a significant cut to anything in this country's history......
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    typical, you can't see past the end of your nose, other than to bash democrats, what do you have to offer? you want to pretend that repubs are totally innocent in this budget mess, you want to keep your head buried in the sand, go for it..this will take both sides to accomplish anything, and we need to put the partisian bs to bed. we have work to do.

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    Re: Republicans are acting like vandals

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Seriously? I'm sorry. I do appreciate you taking the time to post. But I get tired of posting over and over and over again that the democrats already did the "meet you halfway" bit. I don't want to go dig up the URL's and quotes again. The information is out there. Hell, Australia has it. They know that the democrats offered deep cuts, and got nothing in return but the republicans walking out on the talks.
    I do not think there is any reliable site which would show 2 trillion of cuts coming from democrats that the other side would realistically agree to. Also, 2 trillion over 10 years is a joke, we will create new debt to the tune of 1.6 trillion just in the fiscal year just ending.

    I guess that is the big debate for 2012. Economists like Paul Krugman think we need a huge stimulus and the debt means little. Others look at the debt burden we are putting on the next generation and cringe. What happens when the gravy train ends, look at the mess Greece is in. They will make cuts equal to about 21% of their GDP. Not that they want want to, but the world took away their piggy bank. Think what happens here if we have a similar problem. I don't think it is moral to leave my child burdened with a bunch of debt just to keep employment artifically up for a couple of years.

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    Re: Republicans are acting like vandals

    Someone tell the australians they have it all wrong...its just the far right teaparty standing by their principles...

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    Re: Republicans are acting like vandals

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    and they should make cuts , BUT, they should expect, and WE AS A COUNTRY, AS A WHOLE, should expect the republicans to get with the game plan and quit screwing around and pretending that tax increases are not needed.. ...i want some significant money to be chopped from this budget, i also want some tax increases, and those should be targeted to the top earners in this country...the repubs are hell bent on protecting their biggest contributors, and hell bent on screwing over everyone else...to ever balance this budget will require considerable give on both sides, or it wont happen..if repubs want significant cuts, they should expect to have support some tax increases.... a deal like that gives both sides political cover...the repubs are out of their damn minds if they think they are going to get something without giving something. contrary to the kool-aid you have been drinking/snorting/injecting, our ledger has two sides, we need cuts and increased revenue, you squeeze this budget problem from both ends and you get it to meet in the middle. if all you have to offer for this is blah blah blah liberal blah blah blah democrat, then move on, i'm not interested in hearing it from you....
    The GoP has been bending on spending for so long that they met with a primary revolution to get them to pay attention to the problem again. They had been giving in for so long on spending that when Democrats got full control they went crazy on entitlement growth and its now the majority of the budget and scheduled to increase by drastic amounts over the next few years.

    How do you cut a debt of $14trillion with $200billion in cuts a year? Thats right, you dont. Keep in mind from PBrauers chart in another thread that entitlements are in excess of 60% of the budget and will keep growing due to demographics. They not only need cuts they need deep ones to make any impact.

    Revenue is what it is, keep spending within those numbers and things are peachy, the problem is that the finances have been kicked down the road too often and bailouts didnt help one bit, they made it worse.

    If you were on the other side of the table with Democrats and they said they wont cut this year but they will cut $200billion each of the next 10 years, could you honestly say you believed they would? I couldnt.

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