Last edited by randel; 07-04-11 at 07:41 PM.
Obama calls the GOP’s bluff - The Washington Post
Here’s how to negotiate, GOP-style: Begin by making outrageous demands. Bully your opponents into giving you almost all of what you want. Rather than accept the deal, add a host of radical new demands. Observe casually that you wouldn’t want anything bad to happen to the hostage you’ve taken — the nation’s well-being. To the extent possible, look and sound like Jack Nicholson in “The Shining.”
This strategy has worked so well for Republicans that it’s no surprise they’re using it again, this time in the unnecessary fight over what should be a routine increase in the debt ceiling. This time, however, something different is happening: President Obama seems to be channeling Robert De Niro in “Taxi Driver.” At a news conference last Wednesday, Obama’s response to the GOP was, essentially, “You talkin’ to me?”
http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-par...-tax-cuts.html (Why did Tax Revenue INCREASE.....AFTER The Bush, Reagan, and JFK Tax Cuts?)
Spending cuts and tax cuts will solve our economic ills........
They cant cut a Cowboy Poetry Contest Randel..........for the love of your not yet bankrup--but close--grandchildren's grandchildren..........please realize the Democrat Party is never....ever......ever going to deliver the significant cuts you and every other American is looking for.......because Democrats have never made a significant cut to anything in this country's history.......i want some significant money to be chopped from this budget, i also want some tax increases, and those should be targeted to the top earners in this country...the repubs are hell bent on protecting their biggest contributors, and hell bent on screwing over everyone else...to ever balance this budget will require considerable give on both sides, or it wont happen..if repubs want significant cuts, they should expect to have support some tax increases.... a deal like that gives both sides political cover...the repubs are out of their damn minds if they think they are going to get something without giving something. contrary to the kool-aid you have been drinking/snorting/injecting, our ledger has two sides, we need cuts and increased revenue, you squeeze this budget problem from both ends and you get it to meet in the middle. if all you have to offer for this is blah blah blah liberal blah blah blah democrat, then move on, i'm not interested in hearing it from you....
"When Faith preaches Hate, Blessed are the Doubters." - Amin Maalouf
I guess that is the big debate for 2012. Economists like Paul Krugman think we need a huge stimulus and the debt means little. Others look at the debt burden we are putting on the next generation and cringe. What happens when the gravy train ends, look at the mess Greece is in. They will make cuts equal to about 21% of their GDP. Not that they want want to, but the world took away their piggy bank. Think what happens here if we have a similar problem. I don't think it is moral to leave my child burdened with a bunch of debt just to keep employment artifically up for a couple of years.
Someone tell the australians they have it all wrong...its just the far right teaparty standing by their principles...
How do you cut a debt of $14trillion with $200billion in cuts a year? Thats right, you dont. Keep in mind from PBrauers chart in another thread that entitlements are in excess of 60% of the budget and will keep growing due to demographics. They not only need cuts they need deep ones to make any impact.
Revenue is what it is, keep spending within those numbers and things are peachy, the problem is that the finances have been kicked down the road too often and bailouts didnt help one bit, they made it worse.
If you were on the other side of the table with Democrats and they said they wont cut this year but they will cut $200billion each of the next 10 years, could you honestly say you believed they would? I couldnt.