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    BMW layoffs exemplify the evisceration of the middle class

    BMW, Teamsters: BMW layoffs exemplify the evisceration of the middle class - latimes.com

    Every working American should be dismayed by — and afraid of — what BMW is doing.
    It's okay though, because the rich people who have the lowest tax rate ever will be creating new jobs. I read it right here, folks.

    By all accounts, BMW's parts distribution warehouse in Ontario was one of the jewels of the company's system.

    Supplying dealer service departments throughout Southern California, Arizona and Nevada, it received gold medals from BMW for its efficiency and employed several of the top-ranked workers in the country. In the roughly 40 years its workers had been represented by the Teamsters union, there had never been a labor stoppage.

    Times being what they are, when a Teamsters committee came to the plant in early June to open negotiations over a new contract to start Sept. 1, they thought they might be asked to accept minuscule wage increases and maybe some givebacks on health coverage.

    They were stunned by what they heard instead: As of Aug. 31, the plant would be outsourced to an unidentified third-party logistics company and all but three of its 71 employees laid off.

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    Re: BMW layoffs exemplify the evisceration of the middle class

    I wish the author had printed more facts and less feelings.

    He says the workers made $25/hour -- probably an average, I suppose. What about their 401K's? How much did the company contribute? How much did the company pay for their health/disability/etc insurance? Really. I would be nice to know that.

    So I'll make one up since you can't dispute me and the article was fatally flawed in respect to truth...

    Benefits may have run as high as $25/hour on top of wages...so you've got warehouse workers earning $50/hour x 40 hours = $100,000 a year.

    Sometimes (often) unions price themselves right out of the ballpark. Could be that's what happened here...but we'll never know since the bleeding-heart author chose to appeal to emotion rather than fact.
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    Re: BMW layoffs exemplify the evisceration of the middle class

    The one thing we do know is that if we would have taxed the hell out of the doctors and lawyers and other such rich people bmw would have never laid these people off.

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    Re: BMW layoffs exemplify the evisceration of the middle class

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    BMW, Teamsters: BMW layoffs exemplify the evisceration of the middle class - latimes.com



    It's okay though, because the rich people who have the lowest tax rate ever will be creating new jobs. I read it right here, folks.
    How are tax hikes on rich people going to prevent layoffs at BMW?

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    Re: BMW layoffs exemplify the evisceration of the middle class

    You will all be to young to remember this...but at one time my generation was scared to death of "AUTOMATION" it was said it was going to put most of america out of work.
    It did put many people out of work and ended alot of good jobs....but it wasnt done by the companies out of "GREED" to screw their workers, it was modernization and progress and those two things no one can find fault with...today, its driven by neither of those two its driven by pure "GREED"

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    Re: BMW layoffs exemplify the evisceration of the middle class

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    You will all be to young to remember this...but at one time my generation was scared to death of "AUTOMATION" it was said it was going to put most of america out of work.
    It did put many people out of work and ended alot of good jobs....but it wasnt done by the companies out of "GREED" to screw their workers, it was modernization and progress and those two things no one can find fault with...today, its driven by neither of those two its driven by pure "GREED"
    I'm not sure I do remember; I'm 53. It sounds familiar, though.

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    Re: BMW layoffs exemplify the evisceration of the middle class

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I wish the author had printed more facts and less feelings.

    He says the workers made $25/hour -- probably an average, I suppose. What about their 401K's? How much did the company contribute? How much did the company pay for their health/disability/etc insurance? Really. I would be nice to know that.

    So I'll make one up since you can't dispute me and the article was fatally flawed in respect to truth...

    Benefits may have run as high as $25/hour on top of wages...so you've got warehouse workers earning $50/hour x 40 hours = $100,000 a year.

    Sometimes (often) unions price themselves right out of the ballpark. Could be that's what happened here...but we'll never know since the bleeding-heart author chose to appeal to emotion rather than fact.

    that explains why it was posted. Factual information isn't as fun as heart string pulling, emotionalism.
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    Re: BMW layoffs exemplify the evisceration of the middle class

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    that explains why it was posted. Factual information isn't as fun as heart string pulling, emotionalism.
    And obviously, a stab at negotiations isn't as much fun as outsourcing. Dollars to donuts the local execs and office staff here are spared and BMW totally covers all relocation expenses.

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    Re: BMW layoffs exemplify the evisceration of the middle class

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    that explains why it was posted. Factual information isn't as fun as heart string pulling, emotionalism.
    Nobody needs to pull a heart string. Hearing that somebody lost a job they had for over 30 years ago should hurt. That was a Good Worker. He showed up, he did his job, he was loyal. And now he's unemployed.

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    Re: BMW layoffs exemplify the evisceration of the middle class

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Nobody needs to pull a heart string. Hearing that somebody lost a job they had for over 30 years ago should hurt. That was a Good Worker. He showed up, he did his job, he was loyal. And now he's unemployed.
    LIFE ISN'T FAIR BDBOOP.

    They had highly costly jobs, that, thanks to their Union Demands priced them out of the market. I don't GIVE A RATS ASS that BMW made record profits. That's the stupidest freaking argument to make. Maybe BMW as a WHOLE did, but what about the other things we don't know about? Do you know what's going on behind the scenes? What if their parts and supply system was actually taking a loss, and were forced to make cuts? Obviously BMW looked at the system as a whole, saw a problem, in costs and chose to correct it.

    I say BRAVO BMW.

    Do I feel for folks out of the job? Yes, it sucks, and I hope they can find new work, and are able to make a happy adjustment. But I'm not gonna get all outraged because a company made changes to increase profitability. That's what companies do. That's how the world works. I think the biggest problem here is that you don't understand how the world works, you just like getting outraged when it doesn't meet your fantasy version of life.
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