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    Re: BMW layoffs exemplify the evisceration of the middle class

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    No, many companies have been cutting workers, making the remaining workers work hard for flat to inflation adjusted decreasing wages... and paying the additional profits out in the form of executive bonuses..... This is way we are bifurcating our society into the haves and the broken back working class. We are creating a Mexican economy in the US. This would occur much less if the taxes on earned income were stiffer.
    So a company should continue to employ workers when, they have nothing for them to do and/or when there are cheaper alternatives?
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    Re: BMW layoffs exemplify the evisceration of the middle class

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    So a company should continue to employ workers when, they have nothing for them to do and/or when there are cheaper alternatives?
    Why do they have nothing for them to do? Per the article:

    They were stunned by what they heard instead: As of Aug. 31, the plant would be outsourced to an unidentified third-party logistics company and all but three of its 71 employees laid off.

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    Re: BMW layoffs exemplify the evisceration of the middle class

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    BMW, Teamsters: BMW layoffs exemplify the evisceration of the middle class - latimes.com



    It's okay though, because the rich people who have the lowest tax rate ever will be creating new jobs. I read it right here, folks.
    The other night, Rachel Maddow documented many corporations that are paying an effective tax rate fractionally less than the middle class, on the old trickle down thinking they will create jobs while the reality is they have been laying off people year after year. We can no longer afford to continue to give corporations and rich folks tax breaks just because they are rich, regardless of whether they are creating jobs or not.
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    Re: BMW layoffs exemplify the evisceration of the middle class

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    No, many companies have been cutting workers, making the remaining workers work hard for flat to inflation adjusted decreasing wages... and paying the additional profits out in the form of executive bonuses..... This is way we are bifurcating our society into the haves and the broken back working class. We are creating a Mexican economy in the US. This would occur much less if the taxes on earned income were stiffer.
    I can't respect anybody who reads your post and says "Yeah. And?"

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    Re: BMW layoffs exemplify the evisceration of the middle class

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The other night, Rachel Maddow documented many corporations that are paying an effective tax rate fractionally less than the middle class, on the old trickle down thinking they will create jobs while the reality is they have been laying off people year after year. We can no longer afford to continue to give corporations and rich folks tax breaks just because they are rich, regardless of whether they are creating jobs or not.
    EXACTLY. I laughed my ass off earlier today (Yeah. I wish) because I read some tantrum of an article. You know what? You CAN'T threaten to not create any jobs, when you already haven't been. That's what I've been saying for weeks now. The rich will leave? CYA! Bunch of life-sucking parasites. **** you. Go. It's like an angry wife telling her husband he's not getting any tonight. Gee, honey. I haven't been laid since 2008. That horse done already left the building.

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    Re: BMW layoffs exemplify the evisceration of the middle class

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Why do they have nothing for them to do? Per the article:
    Sometimes in house logistics is less efficient for a company to do.
    It's a cost saving measure.

    But if those jobs are done by Americans what's the difference, some of those people will have to find new jobs.
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    Re: BMW layoffs exemplify the evisceration of the middle class

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    I can't respect anybody who reads your post and says "Yeah. And?"
    It's not a "yeah and" thing.

    He's already prefaced the argument with false information.
    Broad brushing entire market segments and assuming "if only those corporate fat cats would be nice to the working poor."

    It's totally ignorant and politically persuaded reasoning.
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    Re: BMW layoffs exemplify the evisceration of the middle class

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    It's not a "yeah and" thing.

    He's already prefaced the argument with false information.
    Broad brushing entire market segments and assuming "if only those corporate fat cats would be nice to the working poor."

    It's totally ignorant and politically persuaded reasoning.
    Talk is cheap, Prove it, or let people see your credibility for what it is.
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    Re: BMW layoffs exemplify the evisceration of the middle class

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Talk is cheap, Prove it, or let people see your credibility for what it is.
    When has America become like Mexico?
    Why should businesses break compensation agreements with the CEO, when it could cost the company more in losses, than if they honored what they agreed to pay?
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    Re: BMW layoffs exemplify the evisceration of the middle class

    Those are really the only corporate choices? Screw the workers, or screw management?

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