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    Re: BMW layoffs exemplify the evisceration of the middle class

    Record profits, but the labor was too expensive.

    ...

    Ok then.
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    Re: BMW layoffs exemplify the evisceration of the middle class

    Perfect solution...the Unions should competitvely bid for the outsourced jobs!

    Or better yet...unions should go into business where they are actually producing something, hiring people, doing more than just leeching off the work of others. I would LOVE to see a union plant...a place where Unions have decided to build, manufacture, hire, everything from the ground up. Lets see what that actually looks like.

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    Re: BMW layoffs exemplify the evisceration of the middle class

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How are tax hikes on rich people going to prevent layoffs at BMW?
    I am going to go out on a limb here and say that this isn't what was intended by what was written.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: BMW layoffs exemplify the evisceration of the middle class

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Or better yet...unions should go into business where they are actually producing something, hiring people, doing more than just leeching off the work of others. I would LOVE to see a union plant...a place where Unions have decided to build, manufacture, hire, everything from the ground up. Lets see what that actually looks like.
    Idk about unions, but there are a number of worker owned companies doing quite well.

    I have often wondered if Marx would approve of employee owned operations functioning in a capitalist-like environment.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: BMW layoffs exemplify the evisceration of the middle class

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Record profits, but the labor was too expensive.

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    Ok then.
    More proof you really don't have any clue how business works.
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    Re: BMW layoffs exemplify the evisceration of the middle class

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Idk about unions, but there are a number of worker owned companies doing quite well.

    I have often wondered if Marx would approve of employee owned operations functioning in a capitalist-like environment.
    Worker owned is great...but lets see what happens when a union has to invest its own capital, create industry, build a product and hire iemployees instead of continuing to be nothing more than parasites and leeches on the hard work and investment of others.

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    Re: BMW layoffs exemplify the evisceration of the middle class

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    More proof you really don't have any clue how business works.
    No, I know exactly how business works. How business works is the problem.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: BMW layoffs exemplify the evisceration of the middle class

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Record profits, but the labor was too expensive.

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    Ok then.
    Record profits isn't always indicative of expanding business.

    Many companies have been reducing inefficiency to increase or stabilize profits, phasing out old things, introducing new things.
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    Re: BMW layoffs exemplify the evisceration of the middle class

    Quote Originally Posted by Truckstop View Post
    The one thing we do know is that if we would have taxed the hell out of the doctors and lawyers and other such rich people bmw would have never laid these people off.
    Yep, maybe you are actually beginning to understand how the economy really works. Had kept marginal income tax rates where they were in 2000, we would have relied less on payroll taxes to pay for our wars and other adventures of the last decade. Moreover, with a higher tax rate on high wage earners, people would be less inclined to payout corporate profits but rather re-invest in plant, equipment and labor.

    With the overall tax burden less on the middle class and more money paid in wages, the overall economy might have been stronger. With strong middle class demand for goods and services, retail and manufacturing would prosper and enough money would trickle up to the capitalists to maintain strong demand for BMWs.
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    Re: BMW layoffs exemplify the evisceration of the middle class

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Record profits isn't always indicative of expanding business.

    Many companies have been reducing inefficiency to increase or stabilize profits, phasing out old things, introducing new things.
    No, many companies have been cutting workers, making the remaining workers work hard for flat to inflation adjusted decreasing wages... and paying the additional profits out in the form of executive bonuses..... This is way we are bifurcating our society into the haves and the broken back working class. We are creating a Mexican economy in the US. This would occur much less if the taxes on earned income were stiffer.

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