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Michele Bachmann: John Quincy Adams Was 'One Of Our Founding Fathers'

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Looks like Bachmann's handlers need to give her some more history lessons. The woman is an idiot.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/28/michele-bachmann-john-quincy-adams_n_885868.html

During an appearance on ABC's "Good Morning America" on Tuesday, Republican presidential candidate Michele Bachmann was given an opportunity to set the record straight with regard to comments she made earlier this year lauding the nation's Founding Fathers for working "tirelessly until slavery was no more in the United States.”

ABC's George Stephanopoulos asked the conservative congresswoman to address the statement, noting that many of the country's Founding Fathers, including Thomas Jefferson and George Washington, in fact had slaves and that slavery wasn't abolished until the Civil War. Here's an excerpt of the exchange that went down:

Bachmann: Well you know what’s marvelous is that in this country and under our constitution, we have the ability when we recognize that something is wrong to change it. And that’s what we did in our country. We changed it. We no longer have slavery. That’s a good thing. And what our Constitution has done for our nation is to give us the basis of freedom unparalleled in the rest of the world.

Stephanopoulos: I agree with that…

Bachmann: That’s what people want...they realize our government is taking away our freedom.

Stephanopoulos: But that’s not what you said. You said that the Founding Fathers worked tirelessly to end slavery.

Bachmann: Well if you look at one of our Founding Fathers, John Quincy Adams, that’s absolutely true. He was a very young boy when he was with his father serving essentially as his father’s secretary. He tirelessly worked throughout his life to make sure that we did in fact one day eradicate slavery...

Stephanopoulos: He wasn’t one of the Founding Fathers – he was a president, he was a Secretary of State, he was a member of Congress, you’re right he did work to end slavery decades later. But so you are standing by this comment that the Founding Fathers worked tirelessly to end slavery?

Asked if she stood by her assertion that the Founding Fathers worked hard to end slavery given the facts, Bachmann said, "Well, John Quincy Adams most certainly was a part of the Revolutionary War era. He was a young boy but he was actively involved."
 
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lol, classic Bachmann.
 
Looks like Bachmann's handlers need to give her some more history lessons. The woman is an idiot.

She gave a dumb answer. It's about as dumb as "57 states." Both are incorrect and dumb statements, but if one doesn't disqualify a candidate from being President, then the other one doesn't either. I think you liberals should give up the chase. Your candidate leads the parade. And let's not forget the current VEEP too. Woof!

Maybe this is just evidence that American History should be better taught in schools and those schools should be public, private, and parochial.
 
She was dead serious, and she would NOT back down.
 
She gave a dumb answer. It's about as dumb as "57 states." Both are incorrect and dumb statements, but if one doesn't disqualify a candidate from being President, then the other one doesn't either. I think you liberals should give up the chase. Your candidate leads the parade. And let's not forget the current VEEP too. Woof!

Maybe this is just evidence that American History should be better taught in schools and those schools should be public, private, and parochial.

Yeah, right. Whatever you need to tell yourself, buddy.
 
Not a fan of Bachman and don't really think she has much chance at the nomination. But with regard to the OP, who really cares and why is Stephanopolis grilling Bachman on Early American History questions? The only goal seems to be chalk up another "talking point" whenever she gets one wrong.

Maybe it happened, but i really don't remember Democratic candidates getting these same lines of questions in the past....



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She gave a dumb answer. It's about as dumb as "57 states." Both are incorrect and dumb statements, but if one doesn't disqualify a candidate from being President, then the other one doesn't either. I think you liberals should give up the chase. Your candidate leads the parade. And let's not forget the current VEEP too. Woof!

Maybe this is just evidence that American History should be better taught in schools and those schools should be public, private, and parochial.
Obama made the gaffe in Beaverton, Oregon; he had visited three states that day on the campaign; he was understandably very tired. What's Michele Bachmann's excuse?
 
She gave a dumb answer. It's about as dumb as "57 states." Both are incorrect and dumb statements, but if one doesn't disqualify a candidate from being President, then the other one doesn't either. I think you liberals should give up the chase. Your candidate leads the parade. And let's not forget the current VEEP too. Woof!

Maybe this is just evidence that American History should be better taught in schools and those schools should be public, private, and parochial.


Did Obama try to back up that there are 57 states?
 
I'm curious. When are the partisan hacks on the left who point out things like this and the partisan hacks on the right who point out things like this about Obama going to realize that all these candidates are human, make mistakes, and those of you pointing this out and making a big deal about it and proving that you have no credibility in discussing politics?
 
She gave a dumb answer. It's about as dumb as "57 states." Both are incorrect and dumb statements, but if one doesn't disqualify a candidate from being President, then the other one doesn't either. I think you liberals should give up the chase. Your candidate leads the parade. And let's not forget the current VEEP too. Woof!

Maybe this is just evidence that American History should be better taught in schools and those schools should be public, private, and parochial.


Obama can't even pronounce the word "Corpsman" right. He pronounces it "Corpseman".
 
Obama can't even pronounce the word "Corpsman" right. He pronounces it "Corpseman".

And Bachman, a Presidential candidate, doesn't know that J.Q Adams was not only NOT a founding father, but was born LONG after the founding fathers founding this country. So, what do each of these things prove? Just that partisan hacks on each side will make big deals out of them because they are... partisan hacks.
 
I'm curious. When are the partisan hacks on the left who point out things like this and the partisan hacks on the right who point out things like this about Obama going to realize that all these candidates are human, make mistakes, and those of you pointing this out and making a big deal about it and proving that you have no credibility in discussing politics?


Now stop with the crazy talk....
 
People are still talking about the '57 states' gaffe...what? 4 years later? Because Obama is a pretty intelligent person, like his policies or not, so there really isn't much to compare this to because he doesn't make blatantly incorrect statements all that often. You will be able to come up with some other ones, but it is not on a consistent basis.

Meanwhile, Bachmann just had a hilarious gaffe YESTERDAY. There is a big, big, big difference in intellect between Bachmann and Obama. Obama has a few dumb statements under his belt, as any human in his position would, but they are the exception, not the rule. On the other hand.......making historically incorrect statements has become damn near a trademark for Michelle Bachmann. These sorts of mistakes and ignorance of the facts are blatant and consistent. To point out one or two to be picking on her, but we've gotten past that point long ago. Now we've got a larger concern, which is that this has become a pattern for her, and it brings into question her intellect and capability to lead.
 
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Seriously, I'm much more worried about what she wants to do to the country now than her grasp of events that happened way back then.

As far as I'm concerned, she could get everything she knows about the Founding Fathers from this if she'd stop telling me I don't belong in this country.
 
And Bachman, a Presidential candidate, doesn't know that J.Q Adams was not only NOT a founding father, but was born LONG after the founding fathers founding this country. So, what do each of these things prove? Just that partisan hacks on each side will make big deals out of them because they are... partisan hacks.


It is that they go the extra mile to say they are right is what bothers me.

I seriously doubt Obama would go the extra mile to say he was right in saying there are 57 states.
 
It is that they go the extra mile to say they are right is what bothers me.

I seriously doubt Obama would go the extra mile to say he was right in saying there are 57 states.

I really don't care, though. What bothers ME are the hacks on each side who go out of their way to defend those on their side, and out of the way to attack those on the other for the same kinds of errors. Folks who do this are hypocritical. We see it in the Obama thread, the Palin threads, and now this thread. It's hypocritical and ridiculous behavior. Whenever you see someone who makes these gaffes a big deal, you automatically know that the individual doing that has no credibility.
 
Seriously, I'm much more worried about what she wants to do to the country now than her grasp of events that happened way back then.

As far as I'm concerned, she could get everything she knows about the Founding Fathers from this if she'd stop telling me I don't belong in this country.

she told you that? How wude.
 
I really don't care, though. What bothers ME are the hacks on each side who go out of their way to defend those on their side, and out of the way to attack those on the other for the same kinds of errors. Folks who do this are hypocritical. We see it in the Obama thread, the Palin threads, and now this thread. It's hypocritical and ridiculous behavior. Whenever you see someone who makes these gaffes a big deal, you automatically know that the individual doing that has no credibility.

I just think people need to figure out the difference between a gaffe and a delusion.
 
I couldn't have told you John Quincy Adams' date of birth either.
 
And Bachman, a Presidential candidate, doesn't know that J.Q Adams was not only NOT a founding father, but was born LONG after the founding fathers founding this country. So, what do each of these things prove? Just that partisan hacks on each side will make big deals out of them because they are... partisan hacks.

Are you saying such threads should never be created, such incidents should never be noted?
 
People are still talking about the '57 states' gaffe...what? 4 years later? Because Obama is a pretty intelligent person, like his policies or not, so there really isn't much to compare this to because he doesn't make blatantly incorrect statements all that often. You will be able to come up with some other ones, but it is not on a consistent basis.

He almost never actually speaks his mind at the moment and almost always uses prepared speeches. When he does speak his mind with nothing in front of him his level of speaking goes down to the point where he sounds like a ghetto kid.
 
She's off by one word --- Quincy.
 
Are you saying such threads should never be created, such incidents should never be noted?

Yeah, pretty much. It isn't interesting, it isn't relevant, it isn't meaningful. It's the political equivalent of pictures of Lindsay Lohan's crotch.
 
She's off by one word --- Quincy.

The city of Lauderhill, Florida, was once off by one word too.

For their Martin Luther King, Jr. Day celebration they commissioned a plaque with the stamps commemorating several African-American civil rights leaders, including MLK, Jr. The plaque was commissioned to be given to James Earl Jones, who was going to speak at the celebration.

When the plaque arrived, it was instead inscribed with the name "James Earl Ray."

Being off on a name by one word can mean an awful lot.
 
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