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    Re: Michele Bachmann: John Quincy Adams Was 'One Of Our Founding Fathers'

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I really don't care, though. What bothers ME are the hacks on each side who go out of their way to defend those on their side, and out of the way to attack those on the other for the same kinds of errors. Folks who do this are hypocritical. We see it in the Obama thread, the Palin threads, and now this thread. It's hypocritical and ridiculous behavior. Whenever you see someone who makes these gaffes a big deal, you automatically know that the individual doing that has no credibility.
    For a person who supposedly doesn't care, you sure have a lot to say.


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    Re: Michele Bachmann: John Quincy Adams Was 'One Of Our Founding Fathers'

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshabar View Post
    And?

    BACHMANN WARNED ‘THE LION KING’ WAS GAY PROPAGANDA: At the November 2004 EdWatch National Education Conference, Bachmann said the “normalization” of homosexuality would lead to “desensitization”: “Very effective way to do this with a bunch of second graders, is take a picture of ‘The Lion King’ for instance, and a teacher might say, ‘Do you know that the music for this movie was written by a gay man?’ The message is: I’m better at what I do, because I’m gay.”

    BACHMANN CLAIMED ABOLISHING THE MINIMUM WAGE WOULD CREATE JOBS: While testifying in front of the Minnesota Senate in 2005, Bachmann said, “Literally, if we took away the minimum wage — if conceivably it was gone — we could potentially virtually wipe out unemployment completely because we would be able to offer jobs at whatever level.” This isn’t remotely true. Even simply reducing the minimum wage would, as Paul Krugman noted, “at best do nothing for employment; more likely it would actually be contractionary.”

    BACHMANN CLAIMED THAT SCIENTISTS ARE SUPPORTERS OF INTELLIGENT DESIGN: During a 2006 debate, Bachmann said, “There are hundreds and hundreds of scientists, many of them holding Nobel Prizes, who believe in intelligent design.” This was, and is, not true.

    BACHMANN LIKENED VISITING IRAQ TO VISITING MALL OF AMERICA: In 2007, Bachmann returned from a junket to Iraq and told her colleagues, “[T]here’s a commonality with the Mall of America, in that it’s on that proportion. There’s marble everywhere. The other thing I remarked about was there is water everywhere.” As ThinkProgress documented at the time, the comparison was preposterous.

    BACHMANN CLAIMED THAT CARBON DIOXIDE IS ‘HARMLESS’: In 2008, a Stanford scientist revealed “direct links” between increased levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and “increases in human mortality” — globally, he found that as many as “20,000 air-pollution-related deaths per year per degree Celsius may be due to this greenhouse gas.” The next year, Bachmann, who is not a scientist, said that “carbon dioxide is portrayed as harmful. But there isn’t even one study that can be produced that shows that carbon dioxide is a harmful gas.”

    BACHMANN CALLED FOR A CONGRESSIONAL WITCH HUNT: Pivoting off the news of Barack Obama’s alleged relationship to former Weather Underground member William Ayers, and his former pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Bachmann accused the candidate of having “anti-American views.” She then suggested that Congressional liberals — including Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid — ought to be subject to “an exposé” by the media because of their views. “I think people would love to see like that,” she told a stunned Chris Matthews.

    BACHMANN SUGGESTED GAY SINGER SHOULD REPENT AFTER GETTING CANCER: Bachmann saw Melissa Etheridge’s cancer as a teachable moment: “Unfortunately she is now suffering from breast cancer, so keep her in your prayers,” she said in November 2004. “This may be an opportunity for her now to be open to some spiritual things, now that she is suffering with that physical disease. She is a lesbian.”

    10 Of The Craziest Things Michele Bachmann Has Ever Said | ThinkProgress


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    Re: Michele Bachmann: John Quincy Adams Was 'One Of Our Founding Fathers'

    If someone is unintelligent they shouldn't be a candidate for president. If they seem to be getting information from history revisionists, and taking it seriously, this is important to know about. I really don't see why this is irrelevant. I wnt our presidents to be smarter than the average, which really isn't asking much.

    The notion that the founders worked tirelessly until slavery was abolished is revisionist crapola.
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    Re: Michele Bachmann: John Quincy Adams Was 'One Of Our Founding Fathers'

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    And?
    See this? All this crazy **** right here? That's the important crazy ****. That's what we need to be worrying about.

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    Re: Michele Bachmann: John Quincy Adams Was 'One Of Our Founding Fathers'

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I'm curious. When are the partisan hacks on the left who point out things like this and the partisan hacks on the right who point out things like this about Obama going to realize that all these candidates are human, make mistakes, and those of you pointing this out and making a big deal about it and proving that you have no credibility in discussing politics?
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    Re: Michele Bachmann: John Quincy Adams Was 'One Of Our Founding Fathers'

    This seems really minor. And not a reason to reject her.

    Now, her statements regarding scientific education are another story. America is already behind in science and math. And the future is strongly within science and math. When we have a candidate who has directly called for teaching what amounts to magic in the science classroom, that does not bode well for America's future. She has put forth that Intelligent Design, which boils down to "can't explain now because of (fill in the blank, whatever is easier for you to grasp), supernatural was the reason!" as being a viable scientific topic that should be taught in classrooms will likely have a poor impact upon how we teach science in America. Furthermore, someone who views what we cannot explain now as the doing of the supernatural says much about how she views facts. And we need a level headed, reality based President.

    The fact the argued for magic as science trumps any of these stupid statements.
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    Re: Michele Bachmann: John Quincy Adams Was 'One Of Our Founding Fathers'

    Quote Originally Posted by Cole View Post
    Not a fan of Bachman and don't really think she has much chance at the nomination. But with regard to the OP, who really cares and why is Stephanopolis grilling Bachman on Early American History questions? The only goal seems to be chalk up another "talking point" whenever she gets one wrong.

    Maybe it happened, but i really don't remember Democratic candidates getting these same lines of questions in the past....



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    Re: Michele Bachmann: John Quincy Adams Was 'One Of Our Founding Fathers'

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Are you saying such threads should never be created, such incidents should never be noted?
    Yeah, pretty much. I see zero point in any of them other than for partisan hacks to attack and other partisan hacks to defend. These kinds of incidents are meaningless to the intelligent as an issue to take into consideration when deciding on a candidate. If they're not, and they will have a major affect on who you vote for, I really would want you not to vote.
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    Re: Michele Bachmann: John Quincy Adams Was 'One Of Our Founding Fathers'

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    For a person who supposedly doesn't care, you sure have a lot to say.
    My job around here is to point out the partisan hacks, hackish comments and positions, and hypocrisy... the last of which I demonstrated that you committed. Keeps me busy and off the streets.
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    Re: Michele Bachmann: John Quincy Adams Was 'One Of Our Founding Fathers'

    Quote Originally Posted by Swizz View Post
    Pathetic...
    What is pathetic is you haven't showed me anything to change my mind. Does he actually sound intelligent without a prepared speech? If he does it should be very easy for you to show me how I'm wrong.

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