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    Re: Michele Bachmann: John Quincy Adams Was 'One Of Our Founding Fathers'

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    Obama can't even pronounce the word "Corpsman" right. He pronounces it "Corpseman".
    And Bachman, a Presidential candidate, doesn't know that J.Q Adams was not only NOT a founding father, but was born LONG after the founding fathers founding this country. So, what do each of these things prove? Just that partisan hacks on each side will make big deals out of them because they are... partisan hacks.
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    Re: Michele Bachmann: John Quincy Adams Was 'One Of Our Founding Fathers'

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    I'm curious. When are the partisan hacks on the left who point out things like this and the partisan hacks on the right who point out things like this about Obama going to realize that all these candidates are human, make mistakes, and those of you pointing this out and making a big deal about it and proving that you have no credibility in discussing politics?

    Now stop with the crazy talk....


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    Re: Michele Bachmann: John Quincy Adams Was 'One Of Our Founding Fathers'

    People are still talking about the '57 states' gaffe...what? 4 years later? Because Obama is a pretty intelligent person, like his policies or not, so there really isn't much to compare this to because he doesn't make blatantly incorrect statements all that often. You will be able to come up with some other ones, but it is not on a consistent basis.

    Meanwhile, Bachmann just had a hilarious gaffe YESTERDAY. There is a big, big, big difference in intellect between Bachmann and Obama. Obama has a few dumb statements under his belt, as any human in his position would, but they are the exception, not the rule. On the other hand.......making historically incorrect statements has become damn near a trademark for Michelle Bachmann. These sorts of mistakes and ignorance of the facts are blatant and consistent. To point out one or two to be picking on her, but we've gotten past that point long ago. Now we've got a larger concern, which is that this has become a pattern for her, and it brings into question her intellect and capability to lead.
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    Re: Michele Bachmann: John Quincy Adams Was 'One Of Our Founding Fathers'

    Seriously, I'm much more worried about what she wants to do to the country now than her grasp of events that happened way back then.

    As far as I'm concerned, she could get everything she knows about the Founding Fathers from this if she'd stop telling me I don't belong in this country.

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    Re: Michele Bachmann: John Quincy Adams Was 'One Of Our Founding Fathers'

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    And Bachman, a Presidential candidate, doesn't know that J.Q Adams was not only NOT a founding father, but was born LONG after the founding fathers founding this country. So, what do each of these things prove? Just that partisan hacks on each side will make big deals out of them because they are... partisan hacks.

    It is that they go the extra mile to say they are right is what bothers me.

    I seriously doubt Obama would go the extra mile to say he was right in saying there are 57 states.

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    Re: Michele Bachmann: John Quincy Adams Was 'One Of Our Founding Fathers'

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    It is that they go the extra mile to say they are right is what bothers me.

    I seriously doubt Obama would go the extra mile to say he was right in saying there are 57 states.
    I really don't care, though. What bothers ME are the hacks on each side who go out of their way to defend those on their side, and out of the way to attack those on the other for the same kinds of errors. Folks who do this are hypocritical. We see it in the Obama thread, the Palin threads, and now this thread. It's hypocritical and ridiculous behavior. Whenever you see someone who makes these gaffes a big deal, you automatically know that the individual doing that has no credibility.
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    Re: Michele Bachmann: John Quincy Adams Was 'One Of Our Founding Fathers'

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    Seriously, I'm much more worried about what she wants to do to the country now than her grasp of events that happened way back then.

    As far as I'm concerned, she could get everything she knows about the Founding Fathers from this if she'd stop telling me I don't belong in this country.
    she told you that? How wude.
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    Re: Michele Bachmann: John Quincy Adams Was 'One Of Our Founding Fathers'

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I really don't care, though. What bothers ME are the hacks on each side who go out of their way to defend those on their side, and out of the way to attack those on the other for the same kinds of errors. Folks who do this are hypocritical. We see it in the Obama thread, the Palin threads, and now this thread. It's hypocritical and ridiculous behavior. Whenever you see someone who makes these gaffes a big deal, you automatically know that the individual doing that has no credibility.
    I just think people need to figure out the difference between a gaffe and a delusion.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Michele Bachmann: John Quincy Adams Was 'One Of Our Founding Fathers'

    I couldn't have told you John Quincy Adams' date of birth either.
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    Re: Michele Bachmann: John Quincy Adams Was 'One Of Our Founding Fathers'

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    And Bachman, a Presidential candidate, doesn't know that J.Q Adams was not only NOT a founding father, but was born LONG after the founding fathers founding this country. So, what do each of these things prove? Just that partisan hacks on each side will make big deals out of them because they are... partisan hacks.
    Are you saying such threads should never be created, such incidents should never be noted?

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