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    Re: Michele Bachmann: John Quincy Adams Was 'One Of Our Founding Fathers'

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Only to the point that people criticizing Bachman are hypocrites. Look, this started when Bush took office (actually Reagan but anyway)....the monkey photos, he's stupid, and all that stuff. The left has a high regard for education, but if a conservative is educated, it doesn't matter. They will find gaffes and other things to somehow demonstrate that the conservative is too incompetent to run for or be in office. That's the way it works around here. Bachman has a Masters degree in Law, which Obama doesn't have. But it doesn't matter to the left, because she's a conservative. When Obama came along.....oh he's from Harvard, he's from Columbia......tingle up the leg....
    bingo. what that guy said. Conservatives are defined by their gaffes, Liberals get theirs glossed over.

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    Re: Michele Bachmann: John Quincy Adams Was 'One Of Our Founding Fathers'

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Yes, that is correct, I misread his DoB... should have realized that it was incorrect, understanding that he was voted President in 1824. Still, doesn't make him a founding father... not at all.
    HAH! too late! by the new rules you've already made a gaffe, making you an utter moron and completely invalidating anything else you say afterwards!!!

    If you take Bachman's comment about JQ and apply it to the founding fathers, it is not accurate. None of them worked "tirelessly" to make sure we one day eradicate slavery. JQ DID work that way, however, and was probably one of the, if not THE most tireless worker towards ending slavery in the legislature, if not of any public figure.
    I think you are putting too high a bar on "tirelessly", then; many of the founders did indeed work to end slavery until the end of their public (or actual) lives. Franklin for example. Certainly Bachmann was correct in that she corrected the narrative that the founders were either ambivalent towards or in favor of slavery.

    And do you think any of this is relevant, including Bachman's error?
    i think it is relevant in discussing those who attack Bachmann on this sort of issue.

    generally, no, i don't think this stuff is relevant. I've said it about people from both sides - you don't generally climb this high in a competitive field unless you are above average smarts. some later deteriorate (joe biden, i think, has done so), but you don't get up there unless you're on the ball. People who get Sarah Palin confused with Tina Fey are the fools, not she.

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    Re: Michele Bachmann: John Quincy Adams Was 'One Of Our Founding Fathers'

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post

    I'm sorry, but you have neither the ability nor the authority to make that judgement.



    a definite possibility.
    "By their fruits you shall know them."

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    Re: Michele Bachmann: John Quincy Adams Was 'One Of Our Founding Fathers'

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    People who get Sarah Palin confused with Tina Fey are the fools, not she.
    Finally! Thank you.


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    Re: Michele Bachmann: John Quincy Adams Was 'One Of Our Founding Fathers'

    and her fruits are.... she disagrees with homosexual marriage? wow, how very unbiblical of her

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    Re: Michele Bachmann: John Quincy Adams Was 'One Of Our Founding Fathers'

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Finally! Thank you.

    yup.

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    Re: Michele Bachmann: John Quincy Adams Was 'One Of Our Founding Fathers'

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    "By their fruits you shall know them."
    Wait, you quoted the Bible.....I thought church and state were separate.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
    "Fly-over" country voted, and The Donald is now POTUS.

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    Re: Michele Bachmann: John Quincy Adams Was 'One Of Our Founding Fathers'

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Wait, you quoted the Bible.....I thought church and state were separate.
    I'm neither.

    I know, me being a Christian; such a shocker.

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    Re: Michele Bachmann: John Quincy Adams Was 'One Of Our Founding Fathers'

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    ah. so you look at pentecostals sort of in the way that Cain looks at Muslims?
    I have a question for you. Do you believe in the rapture. I'm assuming so, based on beliefs as you've posted on the board. If it's true. What would this mean if she goes while she's POTUS?

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    Re: Michele Bachmann: John Quincy Adams Was 'One Of Our Founding Fathers'

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    I have a question for you. Do you believe in the rapture. I'm assuming so, based on beliefs as you've posted on the board. If it's true. What would this mean if she goes while she's POTUS?

    Well its simple - the order of succession would be followed. I mean we are talking about politicians - just how far down the line of succession do you think we'd have to go before we find someone left behind? My bet - not far at all

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