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    Re: seriously, michele bachmann?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeezy View Post
    I don't see what "people you know" have to do with this. Bachmann is from your state. It's really no one's fault that you're from her neck of the woods.
    Huh?

    He asked me to ask Bush supporters. I have. What's your problem?

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    Re: seriously, michele bachmann?

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    Well, a lot of the people I know who voted for Bush didn't vote because of his issues. And of course, anytime it's something you don't like it's "popular culture."
    The opposite side always comes up with lame little reasons for why the other side voted in who they did. The truth is that many people vote people in because of issues that they agree with or will further their cause. While it might true that some people vote in people because they speak well, or they are the same color or they like beer, its a hard sell to say that people vote in people because they are dumb and so is the candidate like you did.

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    Re: seriously, michele bachmann?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The opposite side always comes up with lame little reasons for why the other side voted in who they did. The truth is that many people vote people in because of issues that they agree with or will further their cause. While it might true that some people dumb and vote in people because they speak well, or they are the same color or they like beer, its hard sell to say that people vote in people because they are dumb and so is the candidate like you did.
    Who said I'm on anyone's side? I don't use politicians as dolls.

    You really wanna tell me Joe the Plumber panders to the thinking man?

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    Re: seriously, michele bachmann?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i don't know anything about huntsman yet, but i do know the gop needs to cut bachmann off at the knees, for their own sake.
    I know that's what you are saying, but what are Liberals thinking? Let me read your mind. Interesting. Here is what I read:

    Yes, Bachman, Bachman, Bachman, for the GOP nomination. BWAHAHAHAHA!!
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    Re: seriously, michele bachmann?

    It's not really a problem -- just you unwilling to chalk Bush's victory up to anything other than him being an average Joe.

    It's not the reason he got elected.

    It's not even the main reason he got elected.

    Sure, people were worried about security in 2000 and 2004. That worry, among other things, led them to believe that Bush would be the better man for the job. How true that proved to be is something else entirely, but it definitely doesn't mean that "platforms don't matter." People agreed with what Bush was saying, and he won by about the same margin that his popularity polling reflected: 50.7 to 48.3
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    Re: seriously, michele bachmann?

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I know that's what you are saying, but what are Liberals thinking? Let me read your mind. Interesting. Here is what I read:



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    Re: seriously, michele bachmann?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeezy View Post
    It's not really a problem -- just you unwilling to chalk Bush's victory up to anything other than him being an average Joe.

    It's not the reason he got elected.

    It's not even the main reason he got elected.

    Sure, people were worried about security in 2000 and 2004. That worry, among other things, led them to believe that Bush would be the better man for the job. How true that proved to be is something else entirely, but it definitely doesn't mean that "platforms don't matter." People agreed with what Bush was saying, and he won by about the same margin that his popularity polling reflected: 50.7 to 48.3
    You're assuming most of them bothered to pay much attention to what he was saying. A lot of them still believed Hussein was involved in 9/11 and that's why we went into Iraq well into the aught's. If they did vote on the issues, they did so in blind, unresearched faith.

    His message was unimportant. What was important was the psychology underneath it. And that he did well (well... he didn't... but his cabinet did).

    Bachmann is working on psychology, too.

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    Re: seriously, michele bachmann?

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    You're assuming most of them bothered to pay much attention to what he was saying. A lot of them still believed Hussein was involved in 9/11 and that's why we went into Iraq well into the aught's. If they did vote on the issues, they did so in blind, unresearched faith.
    They did pay attention to what he was saying. And they thought it was correct. The idea that Saddam was behind 9/11 had nothing to do with it. They just bought into the whole idea that we need to stop "evil terrorism" everywhere, right now, by force. "Saddam acts Saddam-like, therefore he must be of the same ilk as the people who attacked us. Best thing to do is just get rid of all those types of people by force."

    Seemed rational to them. That's pretty much what they thought, and that's what Bush was saying.

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    His message was unimportant. What was important was the psychology underneath it. And that he did well (well... he didn't... but his cabinet did).

    Bachmann is working on psychology, too.
    In a way. But if the psychology underneath it is important, then the message is important since it has to be constructed in such a way that most people rationalize it as the right way to go. That's just pitching, and it's what every candidate everywhere has done since the beginning of representative government.

    None of that necessarily speaks to the image of the man himself, and it doesn't really mean that "image" wins. A man's personal image is just the way he personally projects himself, based on your appearance, etc. I would say that psychology beneath a platform is something else. "Having a beer" is not part of a platform, just as "tort reform" is not part of a personal image.
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    Re: seriously, michele bachmann?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    Bachmann got her original Doctorate of Jurisprudence from Oral Roberts University in Tulsa, Okla.
    Bachman furthered her education when she earned her degree in tax law from the College of William and Mary in Virginia. She was a federal tax litigation attorney.

    She probably worked at more difficult tasks than Obama did before he became President.

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