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    Re: Obama Administration Passes DREAM ACT by Executive Memo

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Afaict, there's no pardoning going on.

    Are there any differences between not prosecuting all 12million illegal immigrants and giving them pardons/amnesty?
    No don't worry ICE can prosecute all 12 million cases there's plenty of money and manpower the government isn't broke.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Obama Administration Passes DREAM ACT by Executive Memo

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Presidents have been using the EO to legislate for some time now. It's not new. It should be stopped; but we don't seem to have any interest in that.
    For some reasons, only about half the country gets pissed about it at a time.
    hmmm
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Obama Administration Passes DREAM ACT by Executive Memo

    Another reason to dislike Obama even more.
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    Re: Obama Administration Passes DREAM ACT by Executive Memo

    Quote Originally Posted by robsonic View Post
    Another reason to dislike Obama even more.
    If you actually believe this story, you didn't need any more reasons.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Obama Administration Passes DREAM ACT by Executive Memo

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You have the resources to prosecute two of four cases:

    1) Mid-20's man with known gang affiliations and suspected of several felonies
    2) Late-50's woman working for a home cleaning service, clean record
    3) Person with name matching an entry on the terrorist watch list
    4) College student working on physics degree, clean record

    The memo says go with 1 and 3 under the circumstances. What would you do?
    Prosecute 1 and 4, while maintaining a database with the location, name, actions of prsons 2 and 4 so that once resources free up if there are no better candidates for prosecution you can move onto them.

    Refer the home cleaning service to the IRS to check their books to see if they've got the woman accounted for. If she's not, then that company jumps up on the list for the next time around when prosecution funds are freed up.

    If the individual in #4 is going to college in a state that doesn't allow instate tuition for illegals, then inform the state of his illegal status to ensure that the proper amount of tuition is being paid. If it isn't, then he's committing fraud and well...jumps up on the list the next time around that money free's up for prosecution.

    Oh, and push for congress to raise your budget to be able to prosecute more people violating our laws since we're getting 50% more than we can prosecute by your numbers. Or perhaps take money away from our prosecuting funds for attempting to sue states for enforcing the laws the federal government is saying they don't have the money to do and actually use that money to ENFORCE THE GODDAMN LAWS.

    SHOCKING Idea, I know.

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    Re: Obama Administration Passes DREAM ACT by Executive Memo

    Quote Originally Posted by robsonic View Post
    Another reason to dislike Obama even more.
    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    If you actually believe this story, you didn't need any more reasons.
    Hell, there are people on this board who would say that and nobody would believe them, because they already have a full-fledged hate-on for the man.

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    Re: Obama Administration Passes DREAM ACT by Executive Memo

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Prosecute 1 and 4, while maintaining a database with the location, name, actions of prsons 2 and 4 so that once resources free up if there are no better candidates for prosecution you can move onto them.

    Refer the home cleaning service to the IRS to check their books to see if they've got the woman accounted for. If she's not, then that company jumps up on the list for the next time around when prosecution funds are freed up.

    If the individual in #4 is going to college in a state that doesn't allow instate tuition for illegals, then inform the state of his illegal status to ensure that the proper amount of tuition is being paid. If it isn't, then he's committing fraud and well...jumps up on the list the next time around that money free's up for prosecution.

    Oh, and push for congress to raise your budget to be able to prosecute more people violating our laws since we're getting 50% more than we can prosecute by your numbers. Or perhaps take money away from our prosecuting funds for attempting to sue states for enforcing the laws the federal government is saying they don't have the money to do and actually use that money to ENFORCE THE GODDAMN LAWS.

    SHOCKING Idea, I know.
    And do you see this memo as somehow directing ICE to behave differently?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Obama Administration Passes DREAM ACT by Executive Memo

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Prosecute 1 and 4, while maintaining a database with the location, name, actions of prsons 2 and 4 so that once resources free up if there are no better candidates for prosecution you can move onto them.

    Refer the home cleaning service to the IRS to check their books to see if they've got the woman accounted for. If she's not, then that company jumps up on the list for the next time around when prosecution funds are freed up.

    If the individual in #4 is going to college in a state that doesn't allow instate tuition for illegals, then inform the state of his illegal status to ensure that the proper amount of tuition is being paid. If it isn't, then he's committing fraud and well...jumps up on the list the next time around that money free's up for prosecution.

    Oh, and push for congress to raise your budget to be able to prosecute more people violating our laws since we're getting 50% more than we can prosecute by your numbers. Or perhaps take money away from our prosecuting funds for attempting to sue states for enforcing the laws the federal government is saying they don't have the money to do and actually use that money to ENFORCE THE GODDAMN LAWS.

    SHOCKING Idea, I know.
    I wish I could like this about 100 times!

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    Re: Obama Administration Passes DREAM ACT by Executive Memo

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Hell, there are people on this board who would say that and nobody would believe them, because they already have a full-fledged hate-on for the man.
    That's right! It's because he's black, too.

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    Re: Obama Administration Passes DREAM ACT by Executive Memo

    1. Identity Theft and Assumption Deterrence Act of 1998
    P.L. 105-318
    Enacted H.R. 4151, October 30, 1998
    112 Sat. 3007, codified at 18 U.S.C § 1028

    * The Identity Theft and Assumption Deterrence Act of 1998 was the first piece of federal legislation to deal directly with identity theft. The term “means of identification" is described as a person’s "name, social security number, date of birth, official State or government issued driver's license or identification number, alien registration number, government passport number, employer or taxpayer identification number." (18 U.S.C. § 1028(d)(7)). The U.S. Sentencing Commission is directed to incorporate the crime of ID theft into the United States Sentencing Guidelines Manual (United States Sentencing Commission, Identity Theft: Final Report)

    Features - Identity Theft: Outline of Federal Statutes and Bibliography of Select Resources | LLRX.com


    ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION REFORM AND IMMIGRANT RESPONSIBILITY ACT 1996 (IIRIRA-96)

    Section 215. Criminal Penalty for False Claim to Citizenship.

    It is unlawful for any person to: (1) make a false claim to U.S. citizenship or nationality for the purpose of obtaining, for him or herself or any other person, any federal benefit or service or employment in the U.S.; and (2) make a false claim to U.S. citizenship to vote or register to vote in any federal, state, or local election.

    http://www.nacua.org/documents/iirira.pdf
    For an Illegal work a legitimate job in this country they must have broken one or both of the laws above.
    "Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." - John Adams

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