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    Re: Bachmann Literally Praised Government Pork In Letter To Obama Official

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    That's actually irrelevant. Bachmann is explicitly praising government intervention into a market to prop up industry.



    That's a position diametrically opposed to less government. Effectively the federal government bailed out pork producers by artificially creating market demand. Even more amusingly, the notion of stabilizing prices was a Democrat idea that harks back to the Depression. She explicitly wrote for the government to buy more goods. Now, I don't necessarily have a problem with this in the right circumstances, but this is not a consistent position for Bachmann.
    What proof do you have? Would you rather have the government purchase products from a foreign country?

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    Re: Bachmann Literally Praised Government Pork In Letter To Obama Official

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    I see nothing wrong with accepting federal farm subsidies if you legitimately qualify, and the repeal President Obama's health care law is of the utmost importance to any recovery we hope to have.

    Anyone who knows anything knows that in the last 30 years or so that farms have been hit with restrictions taxes and all kinds of things that have made it hard to stay in business or pass on family farms, farm subsidies keep these needed businesses working.

    Without the farms we don't eat.

    I am not a big fan of Bachmann but I could learn to be.
    I'm a 12% owner of a family farm and we've never received subsidies.

    The family farm is largely a myth. Obviously they exist (again, I'm partial owner of one), but the term "family farm" is really misused now. One family may own, for instance, that chicken ranch, but if they're contracted out to Perdue or Tyson, they are essentially owned by that corporation. Farming sucks (with all due respect to the people who do it and I have much respect for those who do), but we do NOT need our tax dollars continuously going to the pockets of the board of directors at Monsanto, Smithfield, and Tyson - which is where that money really ends up.

    And no matter what you say, I think it's 100% hypocritical to take government money on one hand and complain about government spending on the other.

    If they would subsidize broccoli farms or other healthy organic products, I might change my mind.

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    Re: Bachmann Literally Praised Government Pork In Letter To Obama Official

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    You see it as a consistency issue, I dont think we have all the available facts on what the expenditures went to.
    Still irrelevant. For someone who has made a position of anti-government everything, it is extremely hypocritical to essentially demand the government buy more products.

    Nor are we likely to because there is no interest in it if you guys are take the baited hook in that easily. If it is, excuse the pun, pork spending that wasnt required for either school lunches or military commisaries (only two legit things I can think of) then yeah, Bachmann was wrong to encourage it.
    How is it consistent to be for less government everywhere...except for several items of your choosing?

    Or are we defining consistency however we want these days with no regard for its actual definition?
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    Re: Bachmann Literally Praised Government Pork In Letter To Obama Official

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    What proof do you have?
    Did you even read my post? Seriously.She OUTRIGHT STATED for the government to buy more goods. Seriously, English, do you read it?

    Would you rather have the government purchase products from a foreign country?
    And this is about me how? I'm merely pointing out that Bachmann is a hypocrite (but most politicians are). I do find it amusing that you on one hand are for less government and on the other are for more government at the same time.
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    Re: Bachmann Literally Praised Government Pork In Letter To Obama Official

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Apparently I hit a nerve. Dont post angry Sarge.
    Again, we dont know how legitmate the expenditures were, the "reporter" seemed to have an oar in the water on the subject and didnt look at why the money was spent he went straight for the outrage button and you and PB obliged.
    Yeah, you think? You insult me and then you're surprised that I got angry? If you want to make a point, you can do it without insults. But since you want to play that way. Your point is ignorant nonsense. Pretty much everything you say is ignorant nonsense. If your head wasn't planted firmly in your ass, you'd realize that.
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    Re: Bachmann Literally Praised Government Pork In Letter To Obama Official

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Still irrelevant. For someone who has made a position of anti-government everything, it is extremely hypocritical to essentially demand the government buy more products.
    On Oct. 5, 2009, Bachmann wrote Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack praising him for injecting money into the pork industry through the form of direct government purchases. She went on to request additional assistance.

    Where do you find fault with this?

    "Your efforts to stabilize prices through direct government purchasing of pork and dairy products are very much welcomed by the producers in Minnesota, and I would encourage you to take any additional steps necessary to prevent further deterioration of these critical industries, such as making additional commodity purchases and working to expand trade outlets for these and other agricultural goods," Bachmann wrote.

    She wants the Feds to buy farm products from Minnesota, the State she represents, and encourage trade. I'd want my representative to do the same and would be annoyed if they didn't make the effort.

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    Re: Bachmann Literally Praised Government Pork In Letter To Obama Official

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    I think most liberals/Dems would love to see her win the nomination.
    sounds like a solid idea to me
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    Re: Bachmann Literally Praised Government Pork In Letter To Obama Official

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    On Oct. 5, 2009, Bachmann wrote Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack praising him for injecting money into the pork industry through the form of direct government purchases. She went on to request additional assistance.

    Where do you find fault with this?

    "Your efforts to stabilize prices through direct government purchasing of pork and dairy products are very much welcomed by the producers in Minnesota, and I would encourage you to take any additional steps necessary to prevent further deterioration of these critical industries, such as making additional commodity purchases and working to expand trade outlets for these and other agricultural goods," Bachmann wrote.

    She wants the Feds to buy farm products from Minnesota, the State she represents, and encourage trade. I'd want my representative to do the same and would be annoyed if they didn't make the effort.
    I find fault in her consistency. She wants less government everywhere (except defense) especially in the market yet at the same explicitly calls for government to buy goods in the private market, creating an artificial floor and thereby increasing intervention. How can you be consistent when you bash Obama for interfering with the market while you have praised government intervention in the market? Simple: You can't.

    Personally, as I have stated earlier, I'm not against the government buying goods. But Bachmann is a hypocrite for saying this.
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    Re: Bachmann Literally Praised Government Pork In Letter To Obama Official

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    I find fault in her consistency. She wants less government everywhere (except defense) especially in the market yet at the same explicitly calls for government to buy goods in the private market, creating an artificial floor and thereby increasing intervention. How can you be consistent when you bash Obama for interfering with the market while you have praised government intervention in the market? Simple: You can't.

    Personally, as I have stated earlier, I'm not against the government buying goods. But Bachmann is a hypocrite for saying this.
    Where was she interfering in the market?? The government buys food stuffs for the military. for example, and she would like them to buy Minnesota products. If she becomes President then she will encourage others to buy American goods. This is not "interfering in the market". This is promoting the people you represent.

    This is not the scandal you're hoping for, but you keep digging.

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