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    Re: Top Dem picks Huntsman

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    So you'd say someone who, during the same time she was governor, was rated as the best governor in the country regarding taxes and top 5 regarding total fiscal issues. Each year while she was in office her Budget grew roughly 0.8 billion where as this persons was 1.2 billion, not that far off from each other. However, the budget as a percentage of GDP, this individuals number actually went down while Palin's went up. Meaning that Palin's government spending grew in relation to her states economy this persons spending shurnk. Lets say this individual's state was routinely ranked as a top 3 place to do business, even coming in as number 1 once, and he was known for being very pro-business and business conscience in many of his policies.

    You'd consider that person not to be, at the very least, an average Fiscally and Governmentally Conservative individual if not a stuanch conservative on those issues? And if not, how in the world could you consider Palin as having primarily fiscally conservative views in comparison?
    You cherry pick and use that as proof? Palin also made oil companies pay

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    Re: Top Dem picks Huntsman

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    If you mean Cain he has leadership and financial experience and was not raised privileged like Obama.
    Leadership experience? I guess we should start electing captains of football teams and heads of charitable organizations as President because they obviously have enough experience because they've got "leadership" experience. And his financial experience has little to nothing to do with experience regarding the finances of the government. This is no more legitimate then people throwing out Obama's "constitutional experience" because he was a professor and his "leadership" experience as a community organizer.

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    Re: Top Dem picks Huntsman

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    You cherry pick and use that as proof? Palin also made oil companies pay
    I cherry pick by pointing at:

    1. Cutting taxes
    2. Growing the economy
    3. Reducing the proportional amount government spends
    4. Incentivising business growth

    Yes, how horrible that I "cherry pick" directly conservative things that he was on par if not better than Palin on. Silly me, I should've talked about what he did with Utah's oil fields because....um....they have oil fields in Utah?

    Labeling this guy as a left leaning moderate is so ridiculously unrealistic its laughable. You want to talk about cherry picking? People latch onto two things, one of which he's since said he doesn't feel is something to be done at this time, and use that to claim he's a "left leaning moderate" on fiscal and social issues while ignoreing EVERYTHING else he does, and then combine that with his social stance while completely ignoring his conservative foreign policy (Supports Israel strongly, feels strong need to get NK to be rid of nukes, etc) to attempt to say he's a "left leaning moderate".

    Sorry, THAT'S cherry picking.

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    Re: Top Dem picks Huntsman

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Leadership experience? I guess we should start electing captains of football teams and heads of charitable organizations as President because they obviously have enough experience because they've got "leadership" experience. And his financial experience has little to nothing to do with experience regarding the finances of the government. This is no more legitimate then people throwing out Obama's "constitutional experience" because he was a professor and his "leadership" experience as a community organizer.
    You can justify all you want But cain nows how to run a company and show a profit that means a balanced budget. All Obama nows is to print more money annd SPEND,SPEND,Spend

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    Re: Top Dem picks Huntsman

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I cherry pick by pointing at:

    1. Cutting taxes
    2. Growing the economy
    3. Reducing the proportional amount government spends
    4. Incentivising business growth

    Yes, how horrible that I "cherry pick" directly conservative things that he was on par if not better than Palin on. Silly me, I should've talked about what he did with Utah's oil fields because....um....they have oil fields in Utah?

    Labeling this guy as a left leaning moderate is so ridiculously unrealistic its laughable. You want to talk about cherry picking? People latch onto two things, one of which he's since said he doesn't feel is something to be done at this time, and use that to claim he's a "left leaning moderate" on fiscal and social issues while ignoreing EVERYTHING else he does, and then combine that with his social stance while completely ignoring his conservative foreign policy (Supports Israel strongly, feels strong need to get NK to be rid of nukes, etc) to attempt to say he's a "left leaning moderate".

    Sorry, THAT'S cherry picking.
    Palin Boosted Oil-Company Taxes While Alaska Had Budget Surplus - Bloomberg

    Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, who has joined the Republican national ticket as a tax-cutter, was a driving force in raising a tax on oil companies last year that will help swell the state's budget surplus.

    The increase backed by the Republican vice presidential nominee will, at current prices, raise oil revenue to $11 billion this year -- almost twice what the state needs to fund its government -- state documents show. Alaska also has gotten more money from the federal government than its residents pay in taxes -- $1.75 per tax dollar in 2006, the most recent year available, according to the Tax Foundation, a Washington research group.

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    Re: Top Dem picks Huntsman

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    You can justify all you want But cain nows how to run a company and show a profit that means a balanced budget. All Obama nows is to print more money annd SPEND,SPEND,Spend
    "It mattered for the other guy but my guys DIFFFFFERENT"

    Gotcha. Lack of Experience matters...if you're a democrat. If you're a republican we make excuses for why it doesn't matter.

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    Re: Top Dem picks Huntsman

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Palin Boosted Oil-Company Taxes While Alaska Had Budget Surplus - Bloomberg

    Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, who has joined the Republican national ticket as a tax-cutter, was a driving force in raising a tax on oil companies last year that will help swell the state's budget surplus.

    The increase backed by the Republican vice presidential nominee will, at current prices, raise oil revenue to $11 billion this year -- almost twice what the state needs to fund its government -- state documents show. Alaska also has gotten more money from the federal government than its residents pay in taxes -- $1.75 per tax dollar in 2006, the most recent year available, according to the Tax Foundation, a Washington research group.
    Gotcha. Further showing Huntsman conservative Fiscal and Government credentials compared to someone I've never heard you or others refer to as a "moderate left leaning" Republican.

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    Re: Top Dem picks Huntsman

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    "It mattered for the other guy but my guys DIFFFFFERENT"

    Gotcha. Lack of Experience matters...if you're a democrat. If you're a republican we make excuses for why it doesn't matter.
    I see we want more life long politicians that have screwed up this country. Cain has through his life shown he can fix companies with financial problems. He is a leader and loves this country. I do not hear Cain apologizing for this country.

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    Re: Top Dem picks Huntsman

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Gotcha. Further showing Huntsman conservative Fiscal and Government credentials compared to someone I've never heard you or others refer to as a "moderate left leaning" Republican.
    So now that I proved she paid for her spending you go another direction. You sound like you are defending liberals and democrats not supprting conservatives.

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    Re: Top Dem picks Huntsman

    That's it Zyph... Feel the pain we all feel debating Ptif...

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