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    Re: Jon Hunstman Declares His Candidacy (Watch Live)

    Quote Originally Posted by Swizz View Post
    Do you actually believe this? This leads me to think you have no understanding of the tea party movement.

    Tea party supporters are going to want to rip this guy to shreds.
    I wouldn't go that far, but there is no way he will be supported by more than a very few voters who consider themselves tea partiers. As far as I can tell so far, he's a liberal. He's left of Romney and the Tea Party doesn't like Romney either.
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    Re: Jon Hunstman Declares His Candidacy (Watch Live)

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    I wouldn't go that far, but there is no way he will be supported by more than a very few voters who consider themselves tea partiers. As far as I can tell so far, he's a liberal. He's left of Romney and the Tea Party doesn't like Romney either.
    Just curious, what makes you think he is a liberal? Besides social issues he is really quite conservative.
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    Re: Jon Hunstman Declares His Candidacy (Watch Live)

    For those who didn't have a chance to see Jon Huntsman's speech, a transcript is now available. It can be found at:

    Jon Huntsman Announces 2012 GOP presidential primary bid. Transcript - Lynn Sweet

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    Re: Jon Hunstman Declares His Candidacy (Watch Live)

    It's anything another candidate on the Republican dung heap. That just shows how bad things are. Obama is deplorable. The Republicans are tripping over each other to run for an opportunity to beat Obama. As bad as Obama is there is no GOP statesman who can galvanize the GOP let alone beat a version of Bush Lite. The GOP steps up to the challenge with a field of "also rans". I'm definitely not voting for any presidential candidate from either version of the Corpgov.










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    Re: Jon Hunstman Declares His Candidacy (Watch Live)

    I read the transcript. It's an okay speech, lots of cliches, not much on policy, and a few curious lines, like

    I learned something very important as Governor. For most American families, there is nothing more important than a job.
    Really? How many of us figured that out without being elected governor?

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    Re: Jon Hunstman Declares His Candidacy (Watch Live)

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyDan View Post
    I read the transcript. It's an okay speech, lots of cliches, not much on policy, and a few curious lines, like



    Really? How many of us figured that out without being elected governor?
    Rather than literally suggesting that he learned the importance of a job to America's families while serving as governor, he was likely signaling that his campaign will make one of its priorities the issue of job creation.

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    Re: Jon Hunstman Declares His Candidacy (Watch Live)

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Rather than literally suggesting that he learned the importance of a job to America's families while serving as governor, he was likely signaling that his campaign will make one of its priorities the issue of job creation.
    Yes, but I prefer the way you just said it to the way he did.
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    Re: Jon Hunstman Declares His Candidacy (Watch Live)

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    If Republicans truly have an overarching goal of reclaiming the White House, they will unite behind whomever wins the nomination. If, however, they prefer putting "tests of purity" on narrow issues ahead of that goal, they will help assure the President's re-election. That one faction might cite social issues, another foreign policy, another environmental policy, another national defense, another health care, etc. will make little difference.

    Choices have consequences. All choices are deliberate. The reality will be that those factions will have make a conscious choice to produce exactly the outcome that would have resulted under such circumstances. Moreover, those factions will, their loud objections to the contrary, have made a substantive investment in exactly the policies that would be sustained or pursued following the election.

    Such a situation would not be unprecedented. Victory has often been achieved not solely on account of the merits of the winning party, but also on account of the divisions among the ranks of the losing side.
    I agree with this, but it won't matter if they unite behind someone who is too radical. I'd love to see a race between Obama and Huntsman, but he's jst not going to win, because too many of the GOP is looking for a Palin-esque candidate. They aren't going to find that in Huntsman, who is a viable, moderate candidate. The proof is in this thread. You see reasonable conservatives arguing for Hunstman, and then you have other, in my opinion less reasonable, conservatives attacking Huntsman, and on this board, people advocating other candidates like Cain, Bachmann, etc.
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    Re: Jon Hunstman Declares His Candidacy (Watch Live)

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    /me head hits desk.

    Good God, this man is dull.

    Based on this performance, Huntsman is running for vice president.
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    Re: Jon Hunstman Declares His Candidacy (Watch Live)

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Ah, the media has their new John McCain. Wishy washy on everything.

    Republicans will do well to avoid those kind of candidates this time around, and pick a true conservative, which wins with voters but gets pummelled by the media.
    Actually - he's quite concise and clear about his beliefs and intentions. He's not wishy washy on a damned thing . . .and he has a strong track record of positives to back up his world knowledge.

    He's far out of McCain's league - superior in many ways. On the conservative side, I like him.

    I don't like anyone else yet.
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