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    Re: Military spends more to air condition tents than NASA’s entire budget

    US Army Uses SPF Foam to Cool Tents | Foam Roofing

    In the sweltering Iraqi desert temperatures reach highs of 130 degrees Fahrenheit, and US Army tents don't provide much relief, even with air conditioning. In fact, even with air conditioning, the poorly insulated tents were often still over 100 degrees Fahrenheit inside. These were hardly livable conditions for soldiers.


    In 2009 the U.S. Military began applying polyurethane spray foam to 900 air conditioned tents. Honeywell completed the 12.5 million dollar project. TerraStrong polyurethane foam was pumped from 55 gallon drums and applied to the surface of the tents. The foam conforms to the surface of the tents, sealing and insulating from the external elements and rays of the sun, keeping the tents substantially cooler. The rigid polyurethane foam also provides structural support as well.

    Joseph Lstiburek, a building scientist and indoor air quality expert, told discovery news: "For the Army, there is no other solution even close to this given speed, flexibility, mobility". "You don't have to ship lots of big pieces of stuff around. Think about it: a big tent insulated on the exterior that acts as a combined water control layer, air control layer, vapor control layer and thermal control layer that is also structural."



    The military expects to associated reduce air conditioning costs by at least 25 to 30%. The project is part of 2009-2015 initiative to improve the efficiency of military facilities and improve the quality of life for both troops and civilians.


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    Also, how many tents have sensitive computer or communications equipment that must be kept cool? Medical facilities? etc.

    It's not always as black and white as some would paint it.
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    Re: Military spends more to air condition tents than NASA’s entire budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    apdst is correct(that is painfull to say btw). If they are living in tents, it is for a reason.
    No it's not!

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    Re: Military spends more to air condition tents than NASA’s entire budget

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It would cause damage to a unit's mobility. Tents are far more mobile than buildings.
    Whovian has a good solution on this page and also provides a good example of the benefits of not limiting one's imagination to the conventional.

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    Re: Military spends more to air condition tents than NASA’s entire budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    US Army Uses SPF Foam to Cool Tents | Foam Roofing

    In the sweltering Iraqi desert temperatures reach highs of 130 degrees Fahrenheit, and US Army tents don't provide much relief, even with air conditioning. In fact, even with air conditioning, the poorly insulated tents were often still over 100 degrees Fahrenheit inside. These were hardly livable conditions for soldiers.


    In 2009 the U.S. Military began applying polyurethane spray foam to 900 air conditioned tents. Honeywell completed the 12.5 million dollar project. TerraStrong polyurethane foam was pumped from 55 gallon drums and applied to the surface of the tents. The foam conforms to the surface of the tents, sealing and insulating from the external elements and rays of the sun, keeping the tents substantially cooler. The rigid polyurethane foam also provides structural support as well.

    Joseph Lstiburek, a building scientist and indoor air quality expert, told discovery news: "For the Army, there is no other solution even close to this given speed, flexibility, mobility". "You don't have to ship lots of big pieces of stuff around. Think about it: a big tent insulated on the exterior that acts as a combined water control layer, air control layer, vapor control layer and thermal control layer that is also structural."



    The military expects to associated reduce air conditioning costs by at least 25 to 30%. The project is part of 2009-2015 initiative to improve the efficiency of military facilities and improve the quality of life for both troops and civilians.


    EDIT:

    Also, how many tents have sensitive computer or communications equipment that must be kept cool? Medical facilities? etc.

    It's not always as black and white as some would paint it.
    Hoot! There it is!

    When I was in the service, the 29E MOS guys had to have air-conditioned vans to perform maintenance on TOW missile systems.

    That was the first hint that I got, that made me realize that the infantry was the wrong ****ing MOS.

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    Re: Military spends more to air condition tents than NASA’s entire budget

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Whovian has a good solution on this page and also provides a good example of the benefits of not limiting one's imagination to the conventional.
    He and I--along with Redress--smacked you with some reality, vice your Libbo view of things.

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    Re: Military spends more to air condition tents than NASA’s entire budget

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    He and I--along with Redress--smacked you with some reality, vice your Libbo view of things.
    your response doesn't even make sense.
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    Re: Military spends more to air condition tents than NASA’s entire budget

    U.S. forces find energy efficiency saves lives | ThinkProgress

    “In Iraq, the military has spent $95 million on insulating foam and has saved $105 million per year in return,” said Nolan — who is now retired from the Army and runs a consultancy called Sabot 6 — in an interview. “The National Training Center at Fort Irwin, Calif., is spending $25 million for spray foam at training forward operating bases, saving more than $20 million per year in fuel and equipment costs. Another $29 million is spent in Afghanistan. The military is embracing energy conservation and actively seeking the savings.”
    So far, the cost-benefit analysis has made insulating foam a hit. Turning the Army’s huge, heat-absorbing tents into rigid shells of 2-inch insulation costs $30,000 to $70,000 per tent, depending on size. But insulation pays for itself in 35 days in Iraq, where a gallon of diesel costs $20. Insulation can cut the temperature inside the tent in a hot environment by 20 degrees Fahrenheit before an air-conditioning unit is even turned on, reducing fuel needs by 40 percent.

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    Re: Military spends more to air condition tents than NASA’s entire budget

    Is this more smacking of my libbo view of things?

    adpst is going to be so happy about this.

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    Re: Military spends more to air condition tents than NASA’s entire budget

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Whovian has a good solution on this page and also provides a good example of the benefits of not limiting one's imagination to the conventional.
    I think I shot my load with that one

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    Re: Military spends more to air condition tents than NASA’s entire budget

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Is this more smacking of my libbo view of things?

    adpst is going to be so happy about this.
    I never mentioned your 'libbo view of things'... you libbo.

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