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    Re: Supreme Court throws out huge discrimination suit against Wal-Mart

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    But how can you take money from evil rich people and properly redistribute the wealth without big class action lawsuits??

    Think of the lawyers Maggie, they won't be able to buy those 4th homes and second yachts! You are sooo cruel.
    In a free market, all private businesses should be able to discriminate on any criteria and even on pay in the hiring process. In fact, many businesses already do discreetly.

    Furthermore, in a free market, money should not be stolen from the public by something called the "government" and the re-distributed--as welfare--to specific private businesses.

    Regrettably. . .

    Report says Wal-Mart received $1B in government subsidies. - May. 24, 2004

    Quelle surprise

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    Re: Supreme Court throws out huge discrimination suit against Wal-Mart

    Until women (not all - generalized statement, here) actually look past their own gender in regard to workplace advancement and figure out their actual faults or undesired qualities AND THEN decide whether they need ot change or not - we (as a generalized group of women) will never see a massive change in the makeup of the workforce.

    I remember actually trying to get into the police force and *every single person* I spoke to about it (friends - coworkers, etc) would say things like "it should be easier for you to get in becaues you're a female . . ."

    Gesus - maybe I don't want my gender to be a determining factor. How ****ed up would it be if they were talking to a black guy and said "well, you have affirmative actions going for you, it hsould be easier for you to get into the college you want"

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    Re: Supreme Court throws out huge discrimination suit against Wal-Mart

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    And you know what - most of the girls in the class were horribly offended.
    Gee, I don't know why. And personally, I am surprised you can find your way to your computer each and every day, much less form coherent and complete sentences. Well done, indeed.

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    Re: Supreme Court throws out huge discrimination suit against Wal-Mart

    The essence of the problem here is that Wal-Mart is not truly a private corporation; it's also a publicly funded entity, w/all the subsidies it receives.

    So what the SCOTUS said is that the public should be forced to fund discrimination.

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    Re: Supreme Court throws out huge discrimination suit against Wal-Mart

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Gee, I don't know why. And personally, I am surprised you can find your way to your computer each and every day, much less form coherent and complete sentences. Well done, indeed.
    LOL - fine example of what I was referring to.

    There was an entire chapter dedicated to how gender issues can affect - negatively - your potential for doing well in the workforce.

    An example:
    Women tend to highlight and punctuate casual conversation sentences with laughter or giggles more than men. To many managers (etc) that were interviewed on this subject - this was ANNOYING and to the point of being a serious distraction and would actually discredit the employee and encourage one to take that person LESS seriously.



    Is it necessary to punctuate your sentences with a small giggle?
    Why do women do this?
    Are we born with this innate obnoxious habit?

    It is actually learned over the years - and believe it or not - is not sexist to say "knock it off, stop it" - But yet many people feel as if they're being picked on and offended by the mere suggestion to stop laughing spontaneously at innapropriate times.

    IF people took the time to learn more about the workforce preferences that they have to contend with - get to know theirselves and the qualities that they have which might be a problem - then maybe they'd have better success. Many women HAVE done this and HAVE succeed very well.
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    Re: Supreme Court throws out huge discrimination suit against Wal-Mart

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    I'm disappointed, because this (quote below) points to the very real possibility of systematic discrimination.
    I'm also not surprised Scalia wrote the deciding opinion.
    Scalia: Women Don't Have Constitutional Protection Against Discrimination
    His opinion in this case, ignores the statistics I quoted in Ginsberg's dissent. The numbers are very compelling.
    It was disappointing that even if the suit had gone forward, the court agreed unanimously that they couldn't seek monetary damages, but it still would have been worth it to end inequities in Walmart's employment policies.
    I thought the claims of this case were weak from the get-go. WalMart's hourly employee staff make-up would and should have nothing to do with their senior management make-up. WalMart offers hourly jobs...unskilled labor, able to be filled by pretty much anyone. Management positions are filled not from hourly employee ranks but from qualified candidates, most likely with a graduate level business management background. Truly an apples/oranges comparison. National averages rank anywhere from 11-16% of women senior management positions. If WalMart is bangin in at 33% they are breaking the trends.

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    Re: Supreme Court throws out huge discrimination suit against Wal-Mart

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    LOL - fine example of what I was referring to.
    No, it's not. But I did see you giggle. Stop it, this instant.

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    Re: Supreme Court throws out huge discrimination suit against Wal-Mart

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    I think you would have a great argument if everyone started out at the same level. No amount of management training can be expected to promote a HS drop out to the ranks of the executives.

    The retail industry attracts a high proportion of under educated females . So, I don't necessarily see why you would expect to see a correlation between the number of females working the front-end jobs and the number of females in upper management.

    To get a better picture, I would like to see statistics on the number of qualified men and women that apply for Walmart's management training programs and what the outcomes are of that program.
    The stat was related to management, not executives, which I would have then agreed with. I agree, the retail industry employs a very high proportion of under educated females, even given that, the disparity is enormous.

    Justice Ginsberg reviewed the arguments of both sides and I think it is telling that she included those percentages in her dissent. She brought it to bear in her opinion, so she must have thought there was something to it.

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    Re: Supreme Court throws out huge discrimination suit against Wal-Mart

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    The stat was related to management, not executives, which I would have then agreed with. I agree, the retail industry employs a very high proportion of under educated females, even given that, the disparity is enormous.

    Justice Ginsberg reviewed the arguments of both sides and I think it is telling that she included those percentages in her dissent. She brought it to bear in her opinion, so she must have thought there was something to it.
    I would truly hope that individuals who have more than a highschool diploma set their sights higher than working in a retail setup struggling to climb up through the promotion chain and out of the minimum wage pool.
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    Re: Supreme Court throws out huge discrimination suit against Wal-Mart

    Uggggh...if THIS is the talent pool they BETTER be doing some outside hiring...

    Wal-Mart Stores - Being threaten by third shift managers | TrueInsider.com

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