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    Re: Supreme Court throws out huge discrimination suit against Wal-Mart

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    Maybe it is time to look at the ERA again?
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    The current makeup of the court is dangerous.
    Dangerous to progressive nanny statist maybe. Good for America fortunately.
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    Re: Supreme Court throws out huge discrimination suit against Wal-Mart

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    Dangerous to progressive nanny statist maybe. Good for America fortunately.
    Only good for America if you enjoy the idea of our nation being under complete control of the "benevolent" multinat corporations.

    Now who would be stupid enough to think that that is a "great idea"?
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    Re: Supreme Court throws out huge discrimination suit against Wal-Mart

    I'm siding on the court with this one. . .the lawsuit involved too many women - impossible to look at every single one individually to figur each situation out. You cannot assume they are all the same (of course - this isn't the reasoning of the court) There is no proof overall that each and ever women who was overlooked for a promotion was ever actually truly IDEAL or QUALIFIED for that promotion in contrast to whom it was actually given to.

    There are huge differences between men/women when it comes to how they respond to these situations. There are countless situations - personal ones, ones I've seen firsthand without being directly involved, and things via tv, etc - that show this.

    I've noticed that many women just *assume* that they deserved a raise, qualified more than anyone else for a promotion and so forth. And heavens forbid it *not* be given to them - their first and only thought is that "it's BECAUSE I'm a woman." When a man is overlooked for a promotion he'll just move along, usually, and find a company where he DOES fit in and IS appreciated for what he does offer - and generally - guys don't blame 'it's because I'm a man' on any turn-down they get.

    This last semester I took a Business Communications course and one of the first things we learned about is that women, ingeneral, are horrible about being precise, quick and concise with their communication skills - men do posess these qualities -and those are the things that employers WANT . . . they don't want fluff, confusion and things that muddle up the memo . . .etc

    And you know what - most of the girls in the class were horribly offended.

    Also - you'll find significantly less women in just about every company or organization and system the further up you go. . . look at our own government - no female president's yet
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    Re: Supreme Court throws out huge discrimination suit against Wal-Mart

    Quote Originally Posted by toddwv View Post
    Only good for America if you enjoy the idea of our nation being under complete control of the "benevolent" multinat corporations.
    It's not, this ruling or others like it that folks like you gnash your teeth over do not take us anywhere near that point. You've been told to hate success, fear prosperity and be jealous of those that do well. That's the real shame.

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    Now who would be stupid enough to think that that is a "great idea"?
    If that were in anyway a reality you might have a point, however as all you are doing is regurgitating talking points from class warfare rhetoric you can be dismissed. You should put on a tin foil hat son.
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    Re: Supreme Court throws out huge discrimination suit against Wal-Mart

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Statistics can be misleading. There can be, and probably are, some very compelling reasons that the percetages are lopsided. In my experience, most of the front end workers (including front end managers) are rather uneducated women that I can't imagine any company promoting to higher management.
    That might be an argument if Walmart didn't claim to offer Training and Development from within:
    Opportunities for Everyone

    We have a long history of promoting from within and advancing the careers of our dedicated associates. Nationally, nearly 70 percent of our store management started as hourly associates.
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    Training programs for field associates provide the technical, functional, management and leadership skills needed for success in all operating divisions. For instance, in the Walmart Stores division, their learning university works to develop trainings such as Assistant management training (AMT), focused on the leadership skills that drive future success.
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    Claiming and doing are two different matters though.

    I realize statistics cannot be taken at face value, but those numbers stand out. Since Justice Ginsberg read the arguments on both side, it's of some importance that she mentioned the stats in her dissent.

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    Re: Supreme Court throws out huge discrimination suit against Wal-Mart

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    It's not, this ruling or others like it that folks like you gnash your teeth over do not take us anywhere near that point. You've been told to hate success, fear prosperity and be jealous of those that do well. That's the real shame.
    Apparently you have been lied to by whatever it is that you consider a source of "information" concerning what others think.

    If that were in anyway a reality you might have a point, however as all you are doing is regurgitating talking points from class warfare rhetoric you can be dismissed. You should put on a tin foil hat son.
    You use the word "dismissed" alot. If you don't like that other people have opinions that don't play nice with your tainted worldview, then why not stick to websites that exist purely to support your limited and shortsighted viewpoint?
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    Re: Supreme Court throws out huge discrimination suit against Wal-Mart

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    That might be an argument if Walmart didn't claim to offer Training and Development from within:


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    Walmartstores.com: Opportunity to Lead

    Claiming and doing are two different matters though.

    I realize statistics cannot be taken at face value, but those numbers stand out. Since Justice Ginsberg read the arguments on both side, it's of some importance that she mentioned the stats in her dissent.
    I think you would have a great argument if everyone started out at the same level. No amount of management training can be expected to promote a HS drop out to the ranks of the executives.

    The retail industry attracts a high proportion of under educated females . So, I don't necessarily see why you would expect to see a correlation between the number of females working the front-end jobs and the number of females in upper management.

    To get a better picture, I would like to see statistics on the number of qualified men and women that apply for Walmart's management training programs and what the outcomes are of that program.

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    If we want the workforce to mirror the general population, then pro sports is in for big trouble.
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