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Rachel Maddow's Take on Weiner - Ouch

Thanks for sharing this!

Interesting aint it?
 
It really is. I am one who was strongly believing he should step down, but I was looking at him in a vacuum, independent of what anybody else did or didn't "get away with". I now believe it should have been up to his constituents.

And that idiot from Stern's show. Holy. What an embarrassment of an alleged human.
 
BDBoop said:
It really is. I am one who was strongly believing he should step down, but I was looking at him in a vacuum, independent of what anybody else did or didn't "get away with". I now believe it should have been up to his constituents.

And that idiot from Stern's show. Holy. What an embarrassment of an alleged human.
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I personally think that Weiner should of not left congress but that is a whole other issue.
But really the "liberal media" i personally think that the media is just the "shock media" what ever stories or reports grab the audiences attention the most and will boost their ratings (sad isnt it?).
But hey that is Howard Stern for ya, the "shock jock"...
 
I'd leave it up the constituents. I think part of it is that Weiner initially lied about what happened. Obviously, he isn't facing perjury, but it just makes him look worse. Of course, the fact that he is asked to leave and Charlie Rangel still holds office really says a lot about politics in the United States....
 
Aunt Spiker said:
Damaged BECAUSE they wanted him to resign?

I actually have a little bit better view of some democrats because of their response to Weiner (and others) :shrug:
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Did you watch the video?
 
She's trying to blame the fact that people actually don't approve of his actions on the 'conservative media' (meaning fox news -seeing as how there's no one else in the 'conservative media' fur pile to speak of.) And this doesn't work for me or for many other people. Supposedly - according to her - people went from saying fox news wasn't a real media outlet at all to them (fox) having enough strength and umph that they've compelled their opposing party who hates them to force one of their own to resign . . . geesh man - how far fetched does it get with people like her?

I think if they just take their response to him - and apply it to everyone else, regardless of party, who makes an ass out of their position in office (law breaking, drug dealing, unethical behavior, etc etc) then we'll be on the right path to a Congress I approve of.

Maddow can suck it - as I always say - because I've yet to really hear her say anything I agree with.
 
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Helvidius said:
I'd leave it up the constituents. I think part of it is that Weiner initially lied about what happened. Obviously, he isn't facing perjury, but it just makes him look worse. Of course, the fact that he is asked to leave and Charlie Rangel still holds office really says a lot about politics in the United States....
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It's all about SEX!

Sell arms to America's enemy? (like Reagan) -- Name an airport after him!
Blow jobs? -- IMPEACH!
 
Thought I read somewhere that Maddow hated the weiner....???



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She seems to forget the regularity of sex scandals coming from both sides of the aisle every 2-4 years. Her prediction seems to echo that of Lyndon Johnson after the Civil Rights amendments ended the Democrat reliance upon Southern Democrats, except without the insight of how light the punishment is for this scandal. A generation by bum. I assure you, more sex is coming from both parties shortly. Soon enough, you won't be able to hear anything but "The Republicans can be so full of perverts." Of course, if another moronic radio show/talk show host makes a similar generational prediction after the next Republican wave, well, you would only need to see the ridiculousness of Maddow's comments for temporary sanity to prevail.

This is why it is good to step outside the realm of current events (news and its commentary are sometimes bad for you) to see that there was such things in the past, and that everything went along regularly after that.
 
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samsmart said:
I haven't watched the vid, but if Clinton's infidelities didn't hurt the Democratic Party (or, for that matter, if Mark Foley's troubles didn't hurt the Republican Party) then I seriously doubt that Weiner's sexual antics will hurt the Democratic Party.
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She's not saying they would. She's saying the D's joining the R's in calling for his resignation is at fault.
 
Showing your weiner to 300 million Americans will mark the end of anyone's political career.....

.... its not the severity of the act so to say as it is the 1000 word picture.......

........if there had been a young girl, cigars, a philandering pervert, and a camera in the Whitehouse.......BJ wouldnt have seen a second term either.
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BDBoop said:
Rachel Maddow: Anthony Weiner Resignation Will Damage Democrats 'For A Generation' (VIDEO)
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I really like Rachel Maddow, however I disagree with her on this one. The big difference between the Anthony Wierner story and all of the others she mentioned is PICTURES. If it were not for the evidence, he probably would still have his job today. I also have the sense that the Democratic leadership didn't care for his antics on the House floor and are glad to see him go.
 
This is one place where I really, really disagree with Maddow. She is normally, as far as I'm concerned, the face of reasonable and productive commentating. But I think she's lost her way here. And if you've seen some of her earlier talk on this matter, you can see she's letting her political stance get the better of her.

If anything, this speaks well of the Dems. First of all, it's actually debatable if Weiner did anything illegal - we don't know the whole story with that 17-year-old girl, and it depends what the law is exactly.

But second, the fact that the GOP doesn't care if people who do 100 times worse than this and stay in Congress speaks poorly of them. Aren't they supposed to be the party of the "moral majority" and "family first" and all that good god-fearing stuff?

It makes the Republicans look awful that the Dems are more concerned about their party ethics than the Republicans are.

Basically what Maddow is saying is that "they did it first, so it's ok for us to do it." No, it isn't. And I can see her getting visibly vengeful when she talks about it.

Tsk, tsk, Maddow... get it together.
 
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rocket88 said:
It's all about SEX!

Sell arms to America's enemy? (like Reagan) -- Name an airport after him!
Blow jobs? -- IMPEACH!
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Actually, Clinton committed a crime by lieing under oath. It's called, "perjury", it's illegal and that is why Clinton was impeached.
 
pbrauer said:
I really like Rachel Maddow, however I disagree with her on this one. The big difference between the Anthony Wierner story and all of the others she mentioned is PICTURES. If it were not for the evidence, he probably would still have his job today. I also have the sense that the Democratic leadership didn't care for his antics on the House floor and are glad to see him go.
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Oh, so noooooooooow we know where you get your talking points from! :lamo
 
BDBoop said:
Rachel Maddow: Anthony Weiner Resignation Will Damage Democrats 'For A Generation' (VIDEO)
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Watched most of the video. Don't agree with Maddow often but she is usually interesting. This time she seemed to be on a distortion/rewriting history binge. Didn't pick up anywhere in there where she was holding Weiner accountable for his transgressions. She was consumed with painting him (Weiner) as just a victim of the media.

And she consciously elected to ignore the instances where Congressmen are forced to resign for bad behavior. Chris Lee, Mark Foley, etc....


She really didn't do a lot for her credibility with this little tirade....



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apdst said:
Actually, Clinton committed a crime by lieing under oath. It's called, "perjury", it's illegal and that is why Clinton was impeached.
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(nitpicker....)
 
apdst said:
Actually, Clinton committed a crime by lieing under oath. It's called, "perjury", it's illegal and that is why Clinton was impeached.
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Technically, yes. But it was really because he lied about sex. That's what Americans seem to care about.

I'm more worried about somebody selling arms to Iran than who lied about getting a blow job. But sex sells, so there you go.
 
rocket88 said:
Technically, yes. But it was really because he lied about sex. That's what Americans seem to care about.

I'm more worried about somebody selling arms to Iran than who lied about getting a blow job. But sex sells, so there you go.
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it is true that our society (political affiliation unconcerned) seems to put a lot of personal 'meaning' into sexuality.

Who you sleep with, how many, what you did - all this stuff is always forced to relate with how trustworthy, ethical, honest or responsible you are.
 
Aunt Spiker said:
it is true that our society (political affiliation unconcerned) seems to put a lot of personal 'meaning' into sexuality.

Who you sleep with, how many, what you did - all this stuff is always forced to relate with how trustworthy, ethical, honest or responsible you are.
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The fellas all appreciate a good blow job. Get 'em when you can.

But am thinking that the POTUS sitting in Oval Office getting serviced on regular occasion by an intern staffer crosses a line from "personal sexuality" or "who you sleep with".

Overall thought Clinton was a good president. But the way in which his supporters so readily dismissed/discounted his personal behavior was a little disappointing....


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