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    Re: McCain slams GOP hopefuls' 'isolationism'

    When are the Republicans going to get a strong enough leader that they can stop referencing Reagan as if he was some kind of prophet?
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: McCain slams GOP hopefuls' 'isolationism'

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    The only reason that the Republicans have a problem with our involvement boils down to one thing. Spell it with me: O-B-A-M-A I-S A D-E-M-O-C-R-A-T. That's it.

    It's good to see McCain has gone back to thinking for himself.
    Right? It is rather unusual to see the GOP taking a stand against a good ol' military conflict. That's so against their nature. And, I fear your right, it's all about politics. If it was GOP led, (or led by practically by anyone other than that black dude in the white house,) it would be cuban cigars all around! I think many Americans recognize that too.

    However, I think they may got one right this time. (Go figure, the time they do get one right is when they go against their very own nature. One would think that might cause people to think but I digress.) Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

    Get out of Libya. Get out of Iraq and Afghanistan, start taking care of our own. That's what Obama should do. To date, the only really positive thing I can say about Obama is that he is better than Bush. And that's not saying much.

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    Re: McCain slams GOP hopefuls' 'isolationism'

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    First and foremost, he lost for a reason. That being said, we have no business in Libya and very little if any in Afghanistan. It would save a lot of money if the troops were brought home.
    We weren't in Afghanistan, before we were forced to invade Afghanistan. Maybe, had we been in Afhganistan, prior to 9/11, 9/11 might not have happened. Ultimately, how much more money and blood was spent, because we weren't proactive?

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    Re: McCain slams GOP hopefuls' 'isolationism'

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    The only reason that the Republicans have a problem with our involvement boils down to one thing. Spell it with me: O-B-A-M-A I-S A D-E-M-O-C-R-A-T. That's it.

    It's good to see McCain has gone back to thinking for himself.
    I don't oppose gettting involved in Libya. I'm opposed to the level at which we're getting involved in Libya, which is half ass; and I'm opposed to who we're getting involved with, which are AQ sympathetic orgs.

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    Re: McCain slams GOP hopefuls' 'isolationism'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We weren't in Afghanistan, before we were forced to invade Afghanistan. Maybe, had we been in Afhganistan, prior to 9/11, 9/11 might not have happened. Ultimately, how much more money and blood was spent, because we weren't proactive?
    The ironic part of this post is that, as an isolationist country, we wouldn't have had to be proactive prior to 9/11 because al-Qaeda wouldn't have even wanted to attack us...since we wouldn't have been involved in their regional politics.

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    Re: McCain slams GOP hopefuls' 'isolationism'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We weren't in Afghanistan, before we were forced to invade Afghanistan. Maybe, had we been in Afhganistan, prior to 9/11, 9/11 might not have happened. Ultimately, how much more money and blood was spent, because we weren't proactive?
    Al-Qaeda is far too spread out to honestly and realistically say that had we been in Afghanistan prior to 9/11 that the attrocities would never have happened.
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    Re: McCain slams GOP hopefuls' 'isolationism'

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    The ironic part of this post is that, as an isolationist country, we wouldn't have had to be proactive prior to 9/11 because al-Qaeda wouldn't have even wanted to attack us...since we wouldn't have been involved in their regional politics.
    As a more isolationaist country, there would have been alot more than 3,000 people die on 9/11. Ever since The Big Lie, in 1967--where Egypt, Syria and Jordon reported seeing U.S. troops and aircraft fighting on Israel's side during the 6 Day war, the Muslims have hated us and there's nothing, at this point, that will change that.

    Isolationism didn't revent WW2 and it wouldn't have prevented the GWT.

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    Re: McCain slams GOP hopefuls' 'isolationism'

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    Al-Qaeda is far too spread out to honestly and realistically say that had we been in Afghanistan prior to 9/11 that the attrocities would never have happened.
    Notice, I said, "maybe". I didn't make that statement with absolute certainty.

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    Re: McCain slams GOP hopefuls' 'isolationism'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Notice, I said, "maybe". I didn't make that statement with absolute certainty.
    True, I'm not entirely on the opposite side here. I just think the war in Afghanistan has become stagnant. Changes need to be made in order to continue or create an affective force there.
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    Re: McCain slams GOP hopefuls' 'isolationism'

    McCain is fundamentally wrong. The Republican party has been anything but isolationist and the current GOP candidates fall within the geographic paradigm the GOP has set for its vision of interventionism. There is little dispute amongst GOPers that the US should defend Israel from the big bad Muslims at all costs. If it is an African nation? The debate rages for months. Case and point: Somalia, Rwanda, Burundi, Liberia etc. These candidates are no different. They are in favor of intervening in the US' historical battlegrounds.
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