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    Re: Herman Cain mistake on the Constitution.

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I heard Herman Cain say that during the GOP debate and the other GOP candidates kinda followed suite stating they wouldn't appoint a Muslim to their Cabinet unless they swore an oath to the Constitution. It's an interesting "politically correct" statement to make actually.
    Only Governor Romney and Speaker Gingrich commented on the issue. Governor Romney distanced himself from Mr. Cain's position. Speaker Gingrich appeared to embrace loyalty tests. IMO, both Mr. Cain's and Speaker Gingrich's views on that issue are incompatible with the Constitution.

    From the transcript:

    ROMNEY: ...No, I think we recognize that the people of all faiths are welcome in this country. Our nation was founded on a principal of religious tolerance. That's in fact why some of the early patriots came to this country and we treat people with respect regardless of their religious persuasion.

    Obviously, anybody who would come into my administration would be someone who I knew, who I was comfortable with, and who I believed would honor as their highest oath -- their oath to defend and protect the Constitution of the United States.

    KING: Mr. Speaker, go ahead.

    GINGRICH: I just want to comment for a second. The Pakistani who emigrated to the U.S. became a citizen, built a car bomb which luckily failed to go off in Times Square was asked by the federal judge, how could he have done that when he signed -- when he swore an oath to the United States. And he looked at the judge and said, "You're my enemy. I lied."

    Now, I just want to go out on a limb here. I'm in favor of saying to people, if you're not prepared to be loyal to the United States, you will not serve in my administration, period.

    GINGRICH: We did this -- we did this in dealing with the Nazis and we did this in dealing with the communists. And it was controversial both times, and both times we discovered after a while, you know, there are some genuinely bad people who would like to infiltrate our country. And we have got to have the guts to stand up and say no.
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    Re: Herman Cain mistake on the Constitution.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Yeha, cause look at the GOP's backing of government programs that discriminate against people with the wrong skin color!


    Oh wait.. that's the Dem's that do that...
    I just don't understand why you would want to vote for somebody who doesn't understand the basic principles of our country. I guess you're so determine to defeat Obama that you're willing to vote for an uneducated pizza boy.

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    Re: Herman Cain mistake on the Constitution.

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Only Governor Romney and Speaker Gingrich commented on the issue. Governor Romney distanced himself from Mr. Cain's position. Speaker Gingrich appeared to embrace loyalty tests. IMO, both Mr. Cain's and Speaker Gingrich's views on that issue are incompatible with the Constitution.

    CNN.com - Transcripts
    Then I stand corrected. You are correct concerning Romney. He was the only GOP candidate on the debate panel who in my view answered the question appropriately.

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    Re: Herman Cain mistake on the Constitution.

    Filthy...

    Imagine if your mother was a Muslim-American and you heard presidential candidates saying you had to take a "loyalty test" in order to even be considered for nomination like that isn't implied of any person running for any public position in government. Adopting this anti-Muslim/anti-Islamic stance is mere convenience for some people and they are happy to promote it if it can get them more votes. If being pro-Muslim got them into the presidency, the conversation would have a decidedly different lean to it.

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    Re: Herman Cain mistake on the Constitution.

    Quote Originally Posted by Washington D.C. View Post
    I just don't understand why you would want to vote for somebody who doesn't understand the basic principles of our country. I guess you're so determine to defeat Obama that you're willing to vote for an uneducated pizza boy.
    Didn't stop the community organizer from getting elected.

    What's the next complaint ... that Herman farted ?

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    Re: Herman Cain mistake on the Constitution.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Didn't stop the community organizer from getting elected.

    What's the next complaint ... that Herman farted ?
    Herman farted?

    What is with these childish comments?

    Why can't I just not support him because he doesn't understand Article IV Clause 3 of the Constitution? IMO I think that it is great that we don't need our candidates to take religious test to hold any office. And I would just like to point out, I liked Mitt Romney's response last night.

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    Re: Herman Cain mistake on the Constitution.

    In response to the OP, I do not think they behave patriotic. Exclusion, fear, and prejudice are not patriotic qualities at all. Nor do they have a place in a free society.

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    Re: Herman Cain mistake on the Constitution.

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    This a pretty common mistake because as apdst says:
    Many get this confused because few people read either Document after School.
    Actually, the right to life, liberty, and property is in another document called the Declaration of Colonial Rights, which was a resolution passed by the first Continental Congress, although the 5th and 14th Amendments to the Constitution do say that one cannot be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process.

    So guess what? You guys bashing each other over this point are both right. LOL.
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    Re: Herman Cain mistake on the Constitution.

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    In response to the OP, I do not think they behave patriotic. Exclusion, fear, and prejudice are not patriotic qualities at all. Nor do they have a place in a free society.
    I was referring to the life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness when talking about Cain trying to be patriotic. I agree with you regarding him trying to oppose Muslims as exclusion and prejudice.

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    Re: Herman Cain mistake on the Constitution.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Constitution guarantees the right to life, liberty and property. Maybe you should read The Constitution, before you start hacking on someone else about it?
    More to the point...

    The 5th Amendment does offer protections to our "life, liberty, or property," noting we cannot be deprived of any of them without due process of law. Also, it protects against abuse of government authority in a legal procedure.

    These rights aren't without limits.

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