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American Way: Sarah Palin email frenzy backfires on her media antagonists

haymarket said:
Oh but it most certainly is your problem when you accuse me of going off on some conspiracy theory with the implication being that I have nothing to go on and it is up to me to prove anything. So I ask you again since you defended the emails, the redactions and have criticized me for pointing it out -

How does one acquire evidence of the content of the emails when the actual content of the emails has been edited or blacked out?

How does the mention of this fact of reality distrub you and cause you to make personal attacks on me?

You taking me on in this manner absolutely makes it your problem.
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DO you have anything to go on? No? Well then... it's a conspiracy theory.

You tell me. YOU are the one with the conspiracy theory. You must be basing it on something, right? No? Nothing? It's a baseless ASSumption? More of an indicator that you have a conspiracy theory. You know where to put it.

You seem to have a persecution complex. The remedy for that has been spelled out in my last two posts. Maybe the 3rd time is the charm... If you feel slighted in any way by a post, PLEASE.. I whole heartedly encourage you to report it to the moderating team. It's very simple. At the bottom left of the posts, there is a little triangle with an ! in it. If you place your mouse carefully over the little triangle, a tag pops up that says 'REPORT POST'. Be my guest.
 
I need no help in dealing with you. I can more than handle you myself thank you.

You keep calling this some sort of conspiracy theory. Seems to be a strawman of your own invention.


How does one acquire evidence of the content of the emails when the actual content of the emails has been edited or blacked out? Any evidence is contained in the emails which have been blacked out or redacted. You do understand what that means don't you? How does one get evidence which you claim I need to have when the very process gets rid of the evidence?

How does the mention of this fact of reality distrub you and cause you to make personal attacks on me? Again, you resort to the obvious emphasizing of the letters ASS within the word assmuption- and expect the other kids in class to snicker and give you high fives for your cleverness. This is your idea of debate?
 
haymarket said:
I need no help in dealing with you. I can more than handle you myself thank you.

You keep calling this some sort of conspiracy theory. Seems to be a strawman of your own invention.


How does one acquire evidence of the content of the emails when the actual content of the emails has been edited or blacked out? Any evidence is contained in the emails which have been blacked out or redacted. You do understand what that means don't you? How does one get evidence which you claim I need to have when the very process gets rid of the evidence?

How does the mention of this fact of reality distrub you and cause you to make personal attacks on me? Again, you resort to the obvious emphasizing of the letters ASS within the word assmuption- and expect the other kids in class to snicker and give you high fives for your cleverness. This is your idea of debate?
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So, you have NOTHING to base your suspicions of 'they must be hiding something because they redacted emails!' on, other than your suspicions of 'they must be hiding something because they redacted emails!

Textbook definition of a conspiracy.

Instead of whining about it on a message board, do something about it. Get a lawyer... have a subpoena issued for the full emails, no redactions. Something! Anything but wasting bandwidth here shouting 'they are hiding something!'.

That, or you know where to put your whines.
 
Whovian said:
So, you have NOTHING to base your suspicions of 'they must be hiding something because they redacted emails!' on, other than your suspicions of 'they must be hiding something because they redacted emails!

Textbook definition of a conspiracy.

Instead of whining about it on a message board, do something about it. Get a lawyer... have a subpoena issued for the full emails, no redactions. Something! Anything but wasting bandwidth here shouting 'they are hiding something!'.

That, or you know where to put your whines.
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You are the one wasting your precious bandwidth that you fake concern about over my post and then attacking me for pointing out the obvious - the emails were redacted, blacked out and edited. And that simple fact of reality sets you off on this tangent attacking me.

Its amazing really.

Here is what I said in my post #3 which set you off

How many emails were redacted?

How many emails were not released at all?

I wonder what is in those?

An incomplete picture does not contain the entire story.

So where in there do I actually float any sort of conspiracy theory? Those are legitimate questions and ends with a factual statement. Your bogus 'conspriacy theory' nonsense is a strawman of your own creation intended to simply attack me.
 
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haymarket said:
How many emails were redacted?

How many emails were not released at all?

I wonder what is in those?

An incomplete picture does not contain the entire story.
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:lol: in one thread haymarket says that a city government that investigates itself is the "end of the story", here in this thread, when it's attack Palin, his teams's failures, are not thier fault, it must be that all the good stuff they where hoping for was redacted.


This is utter fail on his part. Some grand conspiracy to protect palin....... :lamo
 
haymarket said:
You are the one wasting your precious bandwidth that you fake concern about over my post and then attacking me for pointing out the obvious - the emails were redacted, blacked out and edited. And that simple fact of reality sets you off on this tangent attacking me.

Its amazing really.

Here is what I said in my post #3 which set you off

How many emails were redacted?

How many emails were not released at all?

I wonder what is in those?

An incomplete picture does not contain the entire story.

So where in there do I actually float any sort of conspiracy theory? Those are legitimate questions and ends with a factual statement. Your bogus 'conspriacy theory' nonsense is a strawman of your own creation intended to simply attack me.
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:lol: @ haymarket conspiracy bunk. Seriously d00d. speculate much? What exactly do you think the redactions are hiding? Maybe that's how they do it in your district. Redacting all the dirt, but, unless you have proof, it's nonsensical conspiracy bunk.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
:lol: in one thread haymarket says that a city government that investigates itself is the "end of the story", here in this thread, when it's attack Palin, his teams's failures, are not thier fault, it must be that all the good stuff they where hoping for was redacted.


This is utter fail on his part. Some grand conspiracy to protect palin....... :lamo
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And you know where those ASSumptions can be put...
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
:lol: in one thread haymarket says that a city government that investigates itself is the "end of the story", here in this thread, when it's attack Palin, his teams's failures, are not thier fault, it must be that all the good stuff they where hoping for was redacted.


This is utter fail on his part. Some grand conspiracy to protect palin....... :lamo
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That makes no sense at all.

You are comparing apples to cinderblocks and accusing me of making a pie that you broke your teeth on.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
:lol: @ haymarket conspiracy bunk. Seriously d00d. speculate much? What exactly do you think the redactions are hiding? Maybe that's how they do it in your district. Redacting all the dirt, but, unless you have proof, it's nonsensical conspiracy bunk.
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Where is it that you and Who get a conspiracy from asking questions that are reality based? Are the two of you so wedded to protecting right wing true believers that you will even resort to distorting a simple asking of questions about the missing part of the picture?

This is amazing even for you guys.
 
ADG said:
You do realize that the e-mails that were released were heavily redacted by state officials. Add to that the mountains of material off-limits due to alleged "personal" or "priviledged" information. What these e-mails represent are the best side of Sarah Palin that the state of Alaska could offer.
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You do know you are wrong. Only a small percentage were redacted and that was fully explained as to why.

Also Sarah Palin is out of office and had nothing to do with the release of restriction of any of these emails.

They really do make her look good though . The more I read the more I like what I see.

It's like someone turned on a light and the reason the Left fears her so much became even more in focus than even before.
 
haymarket said:
Where is it that you and Who get a conspiracy from asking questions that are reality based? Are the two of you so wedded to protecting right wing true believers that you will even resort to distorting a simple asking of questions about the missing part of the picture?

This is amazing even for you guys.
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I bet you think it was al capones fault nothing was in his vault for Geraldo. :ssst:
 
haymarket said:
That makes no sense at all.

You are comparing apples to cinderblocks and accusing me of making a pie that you broke your teeth on.
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Nope, That is not what the Good Reverend is doing at all. He is laughing, It's not"with" you maybe, but he is laughing.



There was nothing in the emails. "end of story".

Sound familiar hay?
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
I bet you think it was al capones fault nothing was in his vault for Geraldo. :ssst:
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I do think its your fault and that of Whovian to go on ranting about alleged conspiracies when none was alleged and neither of you can point to one.

It is also completely illogical for you to attempt to compare an in depth investigation with some edited emails. Its is almost like you do not know the difference between two different things and think they are the same.

You need to see THE DEERHUNTER. Robert DeNiro................."this is this - this isn't something else - this is this".
 
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haymarket said:
I do think its your fault and that of Whovian to go on ranting about alleged conspiracies when none was alleged and neither of you can point to one.

It is also completely illogical for you to attempt to compare an investigation with some edited emails. Its is almost like you do not know the difference between two different things and think they are the same.

You need to see THE DEERHUNTER. Robert DeNiro................."this is this - this isn't something else - this is this".
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Sure I can:

haymarket said:
How many emails were redacted?

How many emails were not released at all?

I wonder what is in those?

An incomplete picture does not contain the entire story.
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You sound like jesse Ventura. :thumbs:
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
Sure I can:





You sound like jesse Ventura. :thumbs:
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Sure you can...... what exactly? You again fail to make a point or any sense. Try using more words and explaining it all out.
 
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ReverendHellh0und said:
haymarket said:
I do think its your fault and that of Whovian to go on ranting about alleged conspiracies when none was alleged and neither of you can point to one.

It is also completely illogical for you to attempt to compare an investigation with some edited emails. Its is almost like you do not know the difference between two different things and think they are the same.

You need to see THE DEERHUNTER. Robert DeNiro................."this is this - this isn't something else - this is this".
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Sure I can:

haymarket said:
How many emails were redacted?

How many emails were not released at all?

I wonder what is in those?

An incomplete picture does not contain the entire story.
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You sound like jesse Ventura. :thumbs:
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Now, in all fairness to haymarket, I have yet to hear him claim to be a Navy SEAL....
 
haymarket said:
Sure you can...... what exactly? You again fail to make a point or any sense.
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I just quoted you chief.


You are speculating, and have nothing but your seething hatred for this woman. That and a dollar will buy you a cup of coffee.... Well not at starbucks, but maybe Mcdonalds....
 
...Sarah Palin says she wasn't involved in faking the moon landing... yet any references to faking the moon landing appear to have been removed from her emails prior to their release....

...why is Sarah Palin covering up a potential role in faking the moon landings? why ensure that none of the released emails mention that event at all? What does Sarah Palin have to hide?
 
cpwill said:
...Sarah Palin says she wasn't involved in faking the moon landing... yet any references to faking the moon landing appear to have been removed from her emails prior to their release....

...why is Sarah Palin covering up a potential role in faking the moon landings? why ensure that none of the released emails mention that event at all? What does Sarah Palin have to hide?
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Haymarket claims not to be al-quada... yet refuses to present evidence that he isn't....
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
I just quoted you chief.


You are speculating, and have nothing but your seething hatred for this woman. That and a dollar will buy you a cup of coffee.... Well not at starbucks, but maybe Mcdonalds....
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You got nothing. I asked questions. Apparently you and Who do not like anyone asking questions of your sainted right wing idols when you badly want to draw hard and fast conclusions from an incomplete picture and one that has been edited and blacked out in places.

What exactly is the conspiracy I am advocating here?
 
haymarket - did the aliens warn you that sarah palin was redacting her role in faking the moon landings?












:roll: seriously man. why don't you just sit outside her house waving a sign demanding to see her birth certificate :roll:
 
haymarket said:
You got nothing. I asked questions. Apparently you and Who do not like anyone asking questions of your sainted right wing idols when you badly want to draw hard and fast conclusions from an incomplete picture and one that has been edited and blacked out in places.

What exactly is the conspiracy I am advocating here?
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One, don't lie about me, I've told you more than once, I am no fan of palin and wouldn't vote for her.



That there is something else, something hidden, that we don't have the "complete story"


You sound like a birther.
 
haymarket said:
You got nothing. I asked questions. Apparently you and Who do not like anyone asking questions of your sainted right wing idols when you badly want to draw hard and fast conclusions from an incomplete picture and one that has been edited and blacked out in places.

What exactly is the conspiracy I am advocating here?
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The mere fact that they redacted emails makes you think they are hiding something?

Did you ever stop to consider that those redacted meails migh be none of your business? Of course not.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
One, don't lie about me, I've told you more than once, I am no fan of palin and wouldn't vote for her.



That there is something else, something hidden, that we don't have the "complete story"


You sound like a birther.
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We need a nick name for Palin Email Conspiracy people. Any ideas?

Email-er doesn't really work for me.
 
Whovian said:
The mere fact that they redacted emails makes you think they are hiding something?

Did you ever stop to consider that those redacted meails migh be none of your business? Of course not.
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or is simply confidential? in my work, many of my emails include all manner of forms, rosters, etc; that have contained social security numbers and so forth.
 
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