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    Re: Dope-Smoking, Menstruating Monkey Study Got $3.6 Million in Tax Dollars

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Yeah! I mean, let's not actually look into why they would research this and what sort of information might be gathered from it! Let's just go ahead and assume it's a waste of money! That's the fiscally responsible thing to do.
    Had you read the whole article you would have come across this: “The main objective of this research is to develop nonhuman primate models (rhesus monkeys) of critical aspects of addiction that will yield useful information for the prevention and treatment of drug abuse,” says the description.

    We know that Pot is not addictive and the others are.

    People with half a brain know this and people who are weak minded or they were told that Pot would make you crazy found out it was a lie and figured the information on the other drugs was also a lie so they moved on and get hooked.

    Honest education could go a long way to helping with drug problems.

    Truth is Pot was banned bot because of any danger, but because hemp threatened that paper mills of William Randolph Hearst, because of racism against Mexicans. Look it up if you don't believe me.

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    Re: Dope-Smoking, Menstruating Monkey Study Got $3.6 Million in Tax Dollars

    This study accounts for next to nothing in the budget. 3.6 million over 10 years is laughable, and it's to study behavioural changes due to drug use. P.S. That means this study would have been initiated during Bush's term in office, and conceivably before the onset of the recession.

    I don't support the study though because humans aren't monkeys, so I don't see how the results can be conclusive for human beings. I guess we're learning a lot though about what happens when monkeys do drugs

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    Re: Dope-Smoking, Menstruating Monkey Study Got $3.6 Million in Tax Dollars

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    No ****, Sherlock.


    Yes. The fact that the physiological responses are similar between primates and humans certainly proves that the psychological responses will also be similar

    What a ****ing waste of tax payer money.
    I wonder if they had any gay monkey's participate. Especially on the Meth portion of the study? Wouldn't wanna leave out any demographics now would we?


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    Re: Dope-Smoking, Menstruating Monkey Study Got $3.6 Million in Tax Dollars

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    This study accounts for next to nothing in the budget. 3.6 million over 10 years is laughable, and it's to study behavioural changes due to drug use. P.S. That means this study would have been initiated during Bush's term in office, and conceivably before the onset of the recession.

    I don't support the study though because humans aren't monkeys, so I don't see how the results can be conclusive for human beings. I guess we're learning a lot though about what happens when monkeys do drugs
    Believe it or not many various sorts of animals have similar responses to drugs and treatment, both psychologically and physiologically, as humans do. Hell, why do you think there is an animal testing stage for many pharmaceuticals?

    In fact, there was a very interesting study a few years back regarding the effects of overpopulation on a large scale which was performed on rats. Interestingly enough, they began to exhibit various interesting behaviors, such as forming gangs, a huge rise in homosexuality and actual instances of prostitution for food. You'd be surprised what we can learn about humans from animals.
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    Re: Dope-Smoking, Menstruating Monkey Study Got $3.6 Million in Tax Dollars

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    You are a Libertarian?

    That is right... it is not government's job to do this.

    If so, you don't give much of a care who uses drugs and what drugs they use. You also realize it's the private sector's job to profit from their misery when they become addicts. It is not government's job to be studying the habits of drug addicts. It is their job of making sure they don't harm anyone else, protecting civilized society from those that become criminals due to their addiction... policing.

    As for reading only from conservative sources... most of my posts quote the rags of journ-O-lists... for the exact reason you portrayed. You cite a source that is right leaning the ape **** starts flying.

    You are a Libertarian? I think not, for your mind seems a wee bit too narrow. Why not try the book linked in my signature line and get back to me later.

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    Yeah attack me. That is exactly what I would expect the OP of a retarded thread like this one to do.

    Taking a drug addict, treating them, and making them into a working, productive, tax paying citizen instead of a prisoner that tax payers have to shell out tens of thousands each year to pay for, is in the government interest. Your ****ing sense of moral superiority apparently got in the way of your common ****ing sense. I gravely dislike people like you who read only sources that report things the way you want to hear them instead of the way they are.

    Now why don't you go gallop off and have one of your shepherds tell you what to think and say?
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    Re: Dope-Smoking, Menstruating Monkey Study Got $3.6 Million in Tax Dollars

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    This study accounts for next to nothing in the budget. 3.6 million over 10 years is laughable, and it's to study behavioural changes due to drug use. P.S. That means this study would have been initiated during Bush's term in office, and conceivably before the onset of the recession.

    I don't support the study though because humans aren't monkeys, so I don't see how the results can be conclusive for human beings. I guess we're learning a lot though about what happens when monkeys do drugs
    In saying : "This study accounts for next to nothing in the budget. 3.6 million over 10 years is laughable," is like saying that even if we start drilling for oil now it will be years before it has an impact.

    Well how long will it take if you don't start at all?

    The analogy goes to waste. How much can you save if you don't start, regardless of the amount.

    We have to stop the BS and begin to use at least a little logic. or we do nothing but bitch.

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    Re: Dope-Smoking, Menstruating Monkey Study Got $3.6 Million in Tax Dollars

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    You are a Libertarian?

    That is right... it is not government's job to do this.

    If so, you don't give much of a care who uses drugs and what drugs they use. You also realize it's the private sector's job to profit from their misery when they become addicts. It is not government's job to be studying the habits of drug addicts. It is their job of making sure they don't harm anyone else, protecting civilized society from those that become criminals due to their addiction... policing.

    As for reading only from conservative sources... most of my posts quote the rags of journ-O-lists... for the exact reason you portrayed. You cite a source that is right leaning the ape **** starts flying.

    You are a Libertarian? I think not, for your mind seems a wee bit too narrow. Why not try the book linked in my signature line and get back to me later.

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    I don't think Bloom's book helps in any of this, Zimmer. I have been re-reading it, and it is about the decline in liberal education in Higher Education and the improper lessons Americans took from German philosophers. Perhaps you are latching onto the title a little too liberally.
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    Re: Dope-Smoking, Menstruating Monkey Study Got $3.6 Million in Tax Dollars

    You know what is really ****ed up is if you freed 15 prisoners who were on 10 year sentences for drug offenses, then it would save approximately the same amount that this entire study cost.
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    Re: Dope-Smoking, Menstruating Monkey Study Got $3.6 Million in Tax Dollars

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    In saying : "This study accounts for next to nothing in the budget. 3.6 million over 10 years is laughable," is like saying that even if we start drilling for oil now it will be years before it has an impact.

    Well how long will it take if you don't start at all?

    The analogy goes to waste. How much can you save if you don't start, regardless of the amount.

    We have to stop the BS and begin to use at least a little logic. or we do nothing but bitch.
    How about this? If this study helped just 15 people get off drugs and avoid being incarcerated for 10 years, then it literally would have paid for itself. How is that for logic?
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
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