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    Re: AEP says it will close five coal plants to comply with EPA regs

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    The alternative is how expensive food will be when our farmlands suffer from the negative impacts of climate change.
    Or the soil erosion from ignoring proper crop rotation to plant corn over and over because its subsidized and selling extremely well.

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    Re: AEP says it will close five coal plants to comply with EPA regs

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    Bill number? House or Senate?
    Climate Change Bill - H.R.2454: American Clean Energy And Security Act of 2009 - U.S. Congress - OpenCongress

    Passed the house, 44 Democrats against, all but 8 Republicans against.

    Never went to vote in the Senate because they couldn't get 60 votes to break a filibuster.

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    Re: AEP says it will close five coal plants to comply with EPA regs

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    The alternative is how expensive food will be when our farmlands suffer from the negative impacts of climate change.
    You mean from farmland being used for windmills

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    Re: AEP says it will close five coal plants to comply with EPA regs

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    It is very expensive to retrofit a coal fired plant with a bag house and scrubbers.

    It is very expensive to retrofit a coal fired plant with a bag house and scrubbers.

    I watched the fight over Mohave Generating Plant in Laughlin, Nevada that went on for many years and a few years ago they finally closed it because they didn't want to retrofit it, and the affect on the air was over night.

    It cleared up and I assume it's still better than it was.

    There are negatives to closing a plant such as jobs. and of course the cost of power and possible shortages that can range far and wide.

    I would like to see the money spent to retrofit all these plants come from the money we waste on Foreign Aid, we could save the jobs and maintain the current power levels, not to mention, local economies.

    We could also use the same money could be used to change or to Natural Gas which burns clean.

    Why do I have to come up these ideas when we have all these so-called geniuses in office. Someone send this idea to all your people in Washington and include Obama.
    Natural gas does not burn CLEAN, it burns cleanER than coal, but no fossil fuel plant burns clean.
    Nuclear is the only type that can be called clean, but it has other issues.
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    Re: AEP says it will close five coal plants to comply with EPA regs

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    You mean from farmland being used for windmills
    Your obsession with this is just plain bizarre. Windmills do not take up a significant portion of farmlands.
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    Re: AEP says it will close five coal plants to comply with EPA regs

    Democrat Sierra Club NO-ENERGY policies in action.........

    .....shutdown all the coal plants, the nuclear plants, the oil industry.......our homes and Chevy volts will run on Hope and Caribou poop......
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    Re: AEP says it will close five coal plants to comply with EPA regs

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Your obsession with this is just plain bizarre. Windmills do not take up a significant portion of farmlands.
    In Illinois on I65 there are 120 on farm land. Each uses one quarter acre not being able to farm. That is 30 acres. Your idea of not significant shows you have an agenda and care nothing about the world food shortage

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    Re: AEP says it will close five coal plants to comply with EPA regs

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Your obsession with this is just plain bizarre. Windmills do not take up a significant portion of farmlands.
    As long as the blades don't get too close to the farmer sitting on his tractor, windmills can coexist with farming....
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    Re: AEP says it will close five coal plants to comply with EPA regs

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    As long as the blades don't get too close to the farmer sitting on his tractor, windmills can coexist with farming....
    Wrong they take up a quarter acre each You also deny facts when it does not fit your agenda

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    Re: AEP says it will close five coal plants to comply with EPA regs

    Already talking about this http://www.debatepolitics.com/genera...increases.html

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    You mean from farmland being used for windmills
    What?. http://www.ameslab.gov/news/news-releases/wind-turbines

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Or the soil erosion from ignoring proper crop rotation to plant corn over and over because its subsidized and selling extremely well.
    Actually, part of the reason why we give subsides to "corn" is due to crop rotation requirements. We learned that lesson during the great depression.
    Last edited by xpiher; 06-12-11 at 12:28 AM.

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