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    Re: House Dems to call for expiration of Bush tax rates in debt-limit deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Can you link to that order ? The one from the "master" that Republicans jumped up for ? Or is this just more bloviating from the "WTF" left ?
    Haymarket is a paid operative for the dem party. He latched on to a bogus definition that had no citation to evidence to suggest anyone who calls the death tax "death tax" was "mentally ill". He claims that I am somehow following orders bashing a tax that has cost my family-over the last 40 years, millions of dollars.

    Haymarket is on record saying the wealth of the rich exists to fund whatever the masses and those who gain power by pandering to them desire

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    Re: House Dems to call for expiration of Bush tax rates in debt-limit deal

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    my family has paid millions in death taxes. I have earned a right to call that abomination for what it is and to try to get rid of it
    There is no right to falsehood and lies. When you follow the orders of your Republican masters, that is what you engage in.

    Political use of "death tax" as a synonym for "estate tax" was encouraged by Jack Faris of the National Federation of Independent Business[41] during the Speakership of Newt Gingrich. Well-known Republican pollster Frank Luntz wrote that the term "death tax" "kindled voter resentment in a way that 'inheritance tax' and 'estate tax' do not".[42]
    Linguist George Lakoff asserts that the term "death tax" is a deliberate and carefully calculated neologism used as a propaganda tactic to aid in efforts to repeal estate taxes. The use of "death tax" rather than "estate tax" in the wording of questions in the 2002 National Election Survey increased support for estate tax repeal by only a few percentage points.[43]
    from Turtle spreading more falsehoods

    Haymarket is a paid operative for the dem party.
    My paycheck comes from the State of Michigan. My job in the State Legislature is exactly the same job that is done by MORE REPUBLICANS than Democrats. Hate to burst your bubble with those meddlesome facts but thats just the way it is.
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    Re: House Dems to call for expiration of Bush tax rates in debt-limit deal

    Poor Haymarket-he assumes that because someone I never heard of used a term that means everyone else who used that term had to do it on the DIRECT ORDERS of that person and then he has the nerve to call me a liar when he cannot possibly know where I first heard that term

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    Re: House Dems to call for expiration of Bush tax rates in debt-limit deal

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Poor Haymarket-he assumes that because someone I never heard of used a term that means everyone else who used that term had to do it on the DIRECT ORDERS of that person and then he has the nerve to call me a liar when he cannot possibly know where I first heard that term
    You march to their tune.
    You follow their orders.
    You sing their song.
    You parrot their slogans.

    If it walks like a turtle, and looks like a turtle, and behaves like a turtle........
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    Re: House Dems to call for expiration of Bush tax rates in debt-limit deal

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You march to their tune.
    You follow their orders.
    You sing their song.
    You parrot their slogans.

    If it walks like a turtle, and looks like a turtle, and behaves like a turtle........
    Another fail-I was using the term death tax as a freshman at yale in a debate on the issue at the Yale Political Union. "Resolved the death tax be abolished". October 1977

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    Re: House Dems to call for expiration of Bush tax rates in debt-limit deal

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Another fail-I was using the term death tax as a freshman at yale in a debate on the issue at the Yale Political Union. "Resolved the death tax be abolished". October 1977
    Yet again, for a time beyond count or reckoning, you resort to the slick tactic of using your own personal experiences or history to extract yourself from a tight spot of your own making. This is something you often do and then of course you hide behind your privacy and nobody can check out the validity of what you say.

    That is intellectually dishonest in the extreme and is not at all what debate consists of.
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    Re: House Dems to call for expiration of Bush tax rates in debt-limit deal

    The Democrats are going out of their way to loose everything in 2012.

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    Re: House Dems to call for expiration of Bush tax rates in debt-limit deal

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Democrats are going out of their way to loose everything in 2012.
    You discovered the secret plan!!!!!

    Okay fellow dems --- who squealed?
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    Re: House Dems to call for expiration of Bush tax rates in debt-limit deal

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    still hung up on that wiki article? since everyone knows what death tax means it doesn't fit your idiotic definition
    there is no such thing as a death tax

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    Re: House Dems to call for expiration of Bush tax rates in debt-limit deal

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Almost as unconstitutional as undeclared wars eh?
    Yes! Exactly donc.
    The one term president Obama's splendid little war had not yet been approved by the Congress, has it? I admit I have not watched any news since Friday. Perhaps Congress declared war on Friday evening, or Saturday, or even today.

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