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    Re: House Dems to call for expiration of Bush tax rates in debt-limit deal

    and no right wing neologisms either like the Republican Party ordered "death tax" to replace the estate tax ..... oh well. Nostalgia ain't what it used to be.
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    Re: House Dems to call for expiration of Bush tax rates in debt-limit deal

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    universal health care requires some of us to pay for the health care of others

    that clearly is unconstitutional to those of us who understand that document

    Almost as unconstitutional as undeclared wars eh?
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    Re: House Dems to call for expiration of Bush tax rates in debt-limit deal

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    Almost as unconstitutional as undeclared wars eh?
    why are you bashing Obama over Libya?

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    Re: House Dems to call for expiration of Bush tax rates in debt-limit deal

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    and no right wing neologisms either like the Republican Party ordered "death tax" to replace the estate tax ..... oh well. Nostalgia ain't what it used to be.
    still hung up on that wiki article? since everyone knows what death tax means it doesn't fit your idiotic definition

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    Re: House Dems to call for expiration of Bush tax rates in debt-limit deal

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    why are you bashing Obama over Libya?
    This **** didn't start with Obama it stated with the Korean Conflict.
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    Re: House Dems to call for expiration of Bush tax rates in debt-limit deal

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    This **** didn't start with Obama it stated with the Korean Conflict.
    I thought it was the Spanish American war myself but point taken

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    Re: House Dems to call for expiration of Bush tax rates in debt-limit deal

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    still hung up on that wiki article? since everyone knows what death tax means it doesn't fit your idiotic definition
    You march to the tune called by right wing ideologues of the Republican Party who ordered you and your ilk to start using DEATH TAX and you jumped up and followed your masters orders.

    There is no tax on death.
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    Re: House Dems to call for expiration of Bush tax rates in debt-limit deal

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You march to the tune called by right wing ideologues of the Republican Party who ordered you and your ilk to start using DEATH TAX and you jumped up and followed your masters orders.

    There is no tax on death.
    Can you link to that order ? The one from the "master" that Republicans jumped up for ? Or is this just more bloviating from the "WTF" left ?

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    Re: House Dems to call for expiration of Bush tax rates in debt-limit deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Can you link to that order ? The one from the "master" that Republicans jumped up for ? Or is this just more bloviating from the "WTF" left ?
    Absolutely.... just for you...

    Estate tax in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    and to make it even easier for you


    Political use of "death tax" as a synonym for "estate tax" was encouraged by Jack Faris of the National Federation of Independent Business[41] during the Speakership of Newt Gingrich. Well-known Republican pollster Frank Luntz wrote that the term "death tax" "kindled voter resentment in a way that 'inheritance tax' and 'estate tax' do not".[42]
    Linguist George Lakoff asserts that the term "death tax" is a deliberate and carefully calculated neologism used as a propaganda tactic to aid in efforts to repeal estate taxes. The use of "death tax" rather than "estate tax" in the wording of questions in the 2002 National Election Survey increased support for estate tax repeal by only a few percentage points.[43]
    hope that helps.

    Then we have stuff like this which is such a blatant lie that it does not even rise to the utilitarian level of manure

    http://60plus.org/aw349/

    Congress has imposed a levy on everything that can conceivably be taxed: income, sales, property, gasoline, and food– the list is endless. A tax is extracted from fans who attend sports or other entertainment events, but a tax for dying? Seniors say, rather emphatically, that DYING SHOULD NOT BE A TAXABLE EVENT!
    Amazing - really truly amazing. Show me what government taxes the act of death?
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    Re: House Dems to call for expiration of Bush tax rates in debt-limit deal

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You march to the tune called by right wing ideologues of the Republican Party who ordered you and your ilk to start using DEATH TAX and you jumped up and followed your masters orders.

    There is no tax on death.
    my family has paid millions in death taxes. I have earned a right to call that abomination for what it is and to try to get rid of it

    you on the other hand admits to being a paid operative for the party that defends this wealth stealing law and its obviously you who has a desire to keep this mechanism in place so your masters can buy votes with it

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