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    Re: House Dems to call for expiration of Bush tax rates in debt-limit deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargantuan View Post
    Did I say that 47% paying no income tax is right? No. I said they should. Everyone should pay income tax, whether you make 5k a year, or 500k a year, but it should be at fair levels. Every country in the world has progressive income tax rates. Are you going to tell me the Chinese, who have a 9.6 economic growth rate, are all parasites? Their highest tax rate is 40 percent I believe.
    Did I speak Chinese in my post ? I am talking about what we have done to ourselves right here in the USA. And "Oh by the way", if you note the topic of the thread, the DEMOCRATS are trying to get things "more fair" and up the taxes progressively higher on the rich. A position you have endorsed.

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    Re: House Dems to call for expiration of Bush tax rates in debt-limit deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Did I speak Chinese in my post ? I am talking about what we have done to ourselves right here in the USA. And "Oh by the way", if you note the topic of the thread, the DEMOCRATS are trying to get things "more fair" and up the taxes progressively higher on the rich. A position you have endorsed.

    America created too much dead weight, and now we are dying from it.
    Excellent post. I agree. We need to close at least 600 of the 800+ bases overseas and trim about 500 to 600 billions dollars from the "defense" budget. It's time to cut some of that dead weight loose.
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    Re: House Dems to call for expiration of Bush tax rates in debt-limit deal

    Quote Originally Posted by toddwv View Post
    Excellent post. I agree. We need to close at least 600 of the 800+ bases overseas and trim about 500 to 600 billions dollars from the "defense" budget. It's time to cut some of that dead weight loose.
    lets start with the stuff that is clearly not constitutionally mandated

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    Re: House Dems to call for expiration of Bush tax rates in debt-limit deal

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    lets start with the stuff that is clearly not constitutionally mandated
    Great idea. Let's start with the 800+ bases that we have on foreign soil and work our way back from there. We can toss in completely disallowing the President to unilaterally wage war without Congress declaring war except in cases where US soil is under direct threat.
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    Re: House Dems to call for expiration of Bush tax rates in debt-limit deal

    Quote Originally Posted by toddwv View Post
    Great idea. Let's start with the 800+ bases that we have on foreign soil and work our way back from there. We can toss in completely disallowing the President to unilaterally wage war without Congress declaring war except in cases where US soil is under direct threat.
    works for me

    then we get rid of socialist security
    medicare etc
    dept of education
    dept of energy
    EPA
    ATF
    war on drugs
    etc etc etc

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    Re: House Dems to call for expiration of Bush tax rates in debt-limit deal

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    works for me

    then we get rid of socialist security
    medicare etc
    dept of education
    dept of energy
    EPA
    ATF
    war on drugs
    etc etc etc
    Or we can get rid of the War on Drugs then
    implement universal health care which would supersede the need for Medicare and Medicaid and a bevy of other programs that people depend on when they can't pay for basic medical care.
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    Re: House Dems to call for expiration of Bush tax rates in debt-limit deal

    Quote Originally Posted by toddwv View Post
    Or we can get rid of the War on Drugs then
    implement universal health care which would supersede the need for Medicare and Medicaid and a bevy of other programs that people depend on when they can't pay for basic medical care.
    universal health care requires some of us to pay for the health care of others

    that clearly is unconstitutional to those of us who understand that document

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    Re: House Dems to call for expiration of Bush tax rates in debt-limit deal

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Here ya go.How about $2.8 trillion offset.Thata work.

    <A group of House Democrats is calling for any deal to raise the debt ceiling to bring about the end of the Bush tax rates for the wealthy.>


    <“At this point, both government and private-sector economists agree that sharp immediate cuts in government spending risk plunging our economy into a double-dip recession that will cost further jobs and ultimately worsen our fiscal situation,” the lawmakers wrote in a letter obtained by The Hill.>

    <They added that allowing the Bush tax rates for the wealthiest to expire at the end of next year would by itself “stop the growth of the deficit over the next decade.” >

    House Dems to call for expiration of Bush tax rates in debt-limit deal - The Hill's On The Money
    I'm all for it. Enough is enough. I think Republicans should simply capitulate and let it happen. It's been a distraction for far too long. It won't make a difference, not one little iota, but it'll make a whole lot of people feel better. Republicans! Don't stand on principle! Just git 'er done!
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    Re: House Dems to call for expiration of Bush tax rates in debt-limit deal

    Quote Originally Posted by toddwv View Post
    Excellent post. I agree. We need to close at least 600 of the 800+ bases overseas and trim about 500 to 600 billions dollars from the "defense" budget. It's time to cut some of that dead weight loose.
    How about the Democrats get a plan on the table that cuts at least 5 trillion in the next 10 years, as compared to Ryan's 6+ trillion.

    You know, a plan !! Whoooooo Hoooooo !!!

    Instead of Dems being a bunch of political pussies who always point to Defense and "the rich", cause that won't get'r done

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    Re: House Dems to call for expiration of Bush tax rates in debt-limit deal

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Here ya go.How about $2.8 trillion offset.Thata work.

    <A group of House Democrats is calling for any deal to raise the debt ceiling to bring about the end of the Bush tax rates for the wealthy.>

    <“At this point, both government and private-sector economists agree that sharp immediate cuts in government spending risk plunging our economy into a double-dip recession that will cost further jobs and ultimately worsen our fiscal situation,” the lawmakers wrote in a letter obtained by The Hill.>

    <They added that allowing the Bush tax rates for the wealthiest to expire at the end of next year would by itself “stop the growth of the deficit over the next decade.” >

    House Dems to call for expiration of Bush tax rates in debt-limit deal - The Hill's On The Money
    The the wealthy are the ones who create the jobs in our Nation. Look at what over taxing and stupid regulations have done to jobs and businesses in California.

    Liberals don't seem to care bout the damage the do as lomg as they get their way.

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