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Romney: "If You Want to Learn About My Church, Talk to My Church

StillBallin75 said:
I'm not sure what you're trying to prove, I couldn't care less what your personal religious experiences are because they're pretty much irrelevant to the point.

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Read: THEOLOGICAL perspective. Not just political.
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I do not give a flying **** about liberals and excuse-makers pretending to endorse a political philosophy of victimhood as being actually just valid worship of God and trying to emulate his teachings about peace and humility.

I do not drink Kool-Ade such that I can look at a race pimp and see him as a mini-pope.

Liberals embrace any excuse that avoids accountability. I'm not liberal. I despise such ****.
 
Eighty Deuce said:
I do not give a flying **** about liberals and excuse-makers pretending to endorse a political philosophy of victimhood as being actually just valid worship of God and trying to emulate his teachings about peace and humility.

I do not drink Kool-Ade such that I can look at a race pimp and see him as a mini-pope.

Liberals embrace any excuse that avoids accountability. I'm not liberal. I despise such ****.
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Liberalism has jack to do with liberation theology not being about religion, sorry.
 
StillBallin75 said:
Liberalism has jack to do with liberation theology not being about religion, sorry.
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Liberalism has everything to do with folks pretending Jeremiah Wright is a man of God.
 
Eighty Deuce said:
Liberalism has everything to do with folks pretending Jeremiah Wright is a man of God.
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How many more straw men you gonna build? Liberation theology might be hateful, and you might not like it. That doesn't make it not religious. You're gonna have to do a hell of a lot better than "this is the case because I say so."
 
StillBallin75 said:
How many more straw men you gonna build? Liberation theology might be hateful, and you might not like it. That doesn't make it not religious. You're gonna have to do a hell of a lot better than "this is the case because I say so."
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See that part of your post that I bolded ? Your words ?

It has nothing to do with what I do, and do not, like.

Thank you for giving me the example I needed.
 
Eighty Deuce said:
He's a political hack. And a race-pimp. Call it whatever you want ... its BS. Not religion.
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Romney's grandparents were polygamists. Conservative excuse-makers are going to say things like "They don't believe that anymore," (some of them still do), but I'm far more worried about what a man learns from familial connections than from some preacher.

You're not anymore concerned with Obama's religion than Sean Hannity is. You only care that he's a Democrat, and therefore (in your mind), anything he does is wrong. That's the definition of "political hack."
 
soccerboy22 said:
I would like to believe him because I don't want anyone's religion in their job politically. Having said that, he is a politician and I feel that him saying this is trying to just convince primary voters to not worry about that he is a Mormon.
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He flip flops on EVERYTHING. I am tired of it.
 
rocket88 said:
Romney's grandparents were polygamists. Conservative excuse-makers are going to say things like "They don't believe that anymore," (some of them still do), but I'm far more worried about what a man learns from familial connections than from some preacher.

You're not anymore concerned with Obama's religion than Sean Hannity is. You only care that he's a Democrat, and therefore (in your mind), anything he does is wrong. That's the definition of "political hack."
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What do you care if his grandparents were polygamists? Why is that even an issue to you?
 
SheWolf said:
He flip flops on EVERYTHING. I am tired of it.
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THIS is why I would never vote for him. And it is enough. The discussion about his religion is simply personal bigotry. People are entitled to be it...but own it. It is what it is. Intolerant religous bigotry. Shame.
 
rocket88 said:
It's as much of an issue as Rev. Wright. None at all.
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Personally, the Rev Wright issue wasn't something I was really concerned with, but I don't think what Romney's grandparents did is comparable to what church Obama chose to frequent.

See: obama is in complete control of his choice of church.

Romney has **** all control over who his grandparents are
 
tessaesque said:
One of the commenters made a decent point. JFK was apparently a pretty staunch, prominent catholic...but it didn't interfere with him being one of the more equally liked, respected presidents. I don't hear a lot of JFK bashing when it comes to his performance in office, or specifically in relation to his religion.
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You don't hear that now. When he was running the right feared that he would be taking orders from the Catholic church.
 
xpiher said:
You don't hear that now. When he was running the right feared that he would be taking orders from the Catholic church.
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I've heard that said, but I wasn't there. I'm not even sure that in 1960 there was "the right" as we know it now. Birchers, yes, but they were dispatched of rather easily by William F. Buckley not long after.

Wouldn't the left feel more uncomfortable with a POTUS being catholic today? Asking rhetorically.
 
LuckyDan said:
Wouldn't the left feel more uncomfortable with a POTUS being catholic today? Asking rhetorically.
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The left is comfortable with other lefties, no matter what their religion is. A person can be pro-choice and anti-abortion and the left would be fine with it.
 
xpiher said:
The left is comfortable with other lefties, no matter what their religion is. A person can be pro-choice and anti-abortion and the left would be fine with it.
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Is there an anti-abortion leftist in an influential office?
 
LuckyDan said:
Is there an anti-abortion leftist in an influential office?
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AFAIK the Clintons are personally against abortion, they just don't think making it illegal is the proper method for dealing with it.
 
xpiher said:
AFAIK the Clintons are personally against abortion, they just don't think making it illegal is the proper method for dealing with it.
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And that sir is a chicken**** politician's position. Especially when they runs as dems.
 
LuckyDan said:
And that sir is a chicken**** politician's position. Especially when they runs as dems.
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Its not chicken ****, its the proper position to have. Making it illegal isn't going to make it go away, see the years leading up to Roe. Making it illegal is going to increase social cost.
 
xpiher said:
Its not chicken ****, its the proper position to have. Making it illegal isn't going to make it go away, see the years leading up to Roe. Making it illegal is going to increase social cost.
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What makes it chicken**** is saying, "I'm personally opposed to it, but I won't do jack about it, since it's, you know, the 'law of the land' and all. Oh well." Then shrugging.
 
LuckyDan said:
What makes it chicken**** is saying, "I'm personally opposed to it, but I won't do jack about it, since it's, you know, the 'law of the land' and all. Oh well." Then shrugging.
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Making illegal doesn't do anything either. If you want to stop abortion, find someone who is thinking about doing it and do everything you can to convince them it wrong. If its an economic reason, offer to pay for the child and offer your time to help take care of it while the mother works. That's the proper thing to do, thats actually doing something.
 
ManofthPeephole said:
Personally, the Rev Wright issue wasn't something I was really concerned with, but I don't think what Romney's grandparents did is comparable to what church Obama chose to frequent.

See: obama is in complete control of his choice of church.

Romney has **** all control over who his grandparents are
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True. His grandparents are not an issue.

I still say that if we can talk about Rev. Wright, then it's fair to talk about Joseph Smith and Brigham Young. Romney does control whether or not he's still a Moron.
 
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