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    Re: Romney: "If You Want to Learn About My Church, Talk to My Church

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    As long as it works. He's the best man on the field.
    Its not going to work because most conservative are not going to be dumb enough to fall for his ruse because of his history as governor of Massachusetts and liberals already have Obama.
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    Re: Romney: "If You Want to Learn About My Church, Talk to My Church

    This actually warmed me up a bit towards Romney. Excellently handled by being both stern, direct, and yet fully understandable. What he believes is what he believes, but he no more speaks for what "The Mormoms" believe than Peter the Catholic speaks for the entire Catholic faith.

    10 to 1, Peirs Morgan wouldn't be asking him the question most likely if he was a Muslim. At the same time, I can imagine some other commentators asking it at that point.

    To a certain degree, I understand...religions that are not as mainstream are more unknown and people are curious about it. But unless a person makes their religion a key part of them (Such as the muslim congressman from Michigan whose campaign seemed to routinely tout the importance of such a milestone regarding his religion and federal office) I don't see how its appropriate to use the Candidate to inform the people about their religion unless they so wish. Find actual representitives of that religion if you're so interested.

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    Re: Romney: "If You Want to Learn About My Church, Talk to My Church

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Romney: 'If You Want to Learn More About My Church, Talk to My Church' - The Note



    What do you think? Do you believe him when he says he wants to keep his religion and his job separate?
    I have no problem with him being a Mormon and consider it, to me, a nonissue. However, I do think that it will be an election issue, though I don't know how much of one.
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    Re: Romney: "If You Want to Learn About My Church, Talk to My Church

    I dont think theres a choice anymore...If romny wants any chance of success he must keep it separate...I admittedly know more about muslims than I know about what mormons are about

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    Re: Romney: "If You Want to Learn About My Church, Talk to My Church

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Romney: 'If You Want to Learn More About My Church, Talk to My Church' - The Note

    What do you think? Do you believe him when he says he wants to keep his religion and his job separate?
    I think he gave a fair answer, but his religion is obviously not separate from his job considering that he is against gay marriage.

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    Re: Romney: "If You Want to Learn About My Church, Talk to My Church

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I believe he is trying to use his religion as a explanation for why people do not want to vote for him instead of the fact he is one of the biggest RINOs out there and the scum in the media play along with it as though it will guilt people into voting for him.
    I didn't get that from this interview. It seemed to me that the reporter wanted to make his religion an issue.
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    Re: Romney: "If You Want to Learn About My Church, Talk to My Church

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    I think he gave a fair answer, but his religion is obviously not separate from his job considering that he is against gay marriage.
    While I'm not willing to accept a compromise of "civil unions" in place of marriage for gay couples, I also have to acknowledge that there are much worse stances than his on the right. I actually think his support of unions and equal legal rights outside of the title of "marriage" will cause him harm with the core base.
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    Re: Romney: "If You Want to Learn About My Church, Talk to My Church

    I personally think Romney has what it takes to be a good, pragmatic president. That's all I want these days, someone who isn't going to put idealism over reality.
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    Re: Romney: "If You Want to Learn About My Church, Talk to My Church

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    While I'm not willing to accept a compromise of "civil unions" in place of marriage for gay couples, I also have to acknowledge that there are much worse stances than his on the right. I actually think his support of unions and equal legal rights outside of the title of "marriage" will cause him harm with the core base.
    I agree and his stance on gay marriage is the same as Obama's. Nonetheless, Romney's stance on gay marriage makes it clear that his religion directly influences his policy.

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    Re: Romney: "If You Want to Learn About My Church, Talk to My Church

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    I agree and his stance on gay marriage is the same as Obama's. Nonetheless, Romney's stance on gay marriage makes it clear that his religion directly influences his policy.
    I would say not to the extent one would expect from a member of the Mormon faith. This is the same religious body that sponsored and endorsed "reconditioning" experiements at BYU a few decades back.

    For a more modern view, though....from the LDS website:

    Helping Those Who Struggle with Same-Gender Attraction - Ensign Oct. 2007

    If Romney were staunchly in line with common Mormon belief he wouldn't encourage civil unions because that would encourage sin.
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