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    Re: Romney: "If You Want to Learn About My Church, Talk to My Church

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    and this is totally beside the point I was trying to make. can we focus here?
    So ? It was a point I wanted to make. You can focus on whatever you want to otherwise. WTF.

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    Re: Romney: "If You Want to Learn About My Church, Talk to My Church

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    People that thought Obamas religion was a disqualifier are as asenine as those that thing Romneys is.
    So what about talking about Rev. Wright? I think that if it's fair to talk about him, why not Joseph Smith or Brigham Young? Or for that matter, Romney's own grandparents? Know why Mitt's father was born in Mexico? Polygamist Mormons were hiding out there. (So you see, Romney's Grandparents believed that marriage was between one man and five or so women...)

    I don't actually think it's an issue, but next time someone says that Rev. Wright is an issue should consider Romney's background.


    Obama's deficits were he had zero qualifications beyond being a clean articulate well spoken black person. Romneys disqualifiers are that he changes his position and stances based on which direction the wind is blowing in his consitutents back yard. Dude has to stand for something and be consistent.
    I agree. Romney needs to let us know where he is actually coming from. I think he's really a moderate, but he's pandering to the Tea Party and the religious right. However, it's hard for me to vote for someone who's rhetoric and record don't match.

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    Re: Romney: "If You Want to Learn About My Church, Talk to My Church

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    So ? It was a point I wanted to make. You can focus on whatever you want to otherwise. WTF.
    Okay...well as has been already shown, reverend wright DOES represent a particular strain or interpretation of a particular religion.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Romney: "If You Want to Learn About My Church, Talk to My Church

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Okay...well as has been already shown, reverend wright DOES represent a particular strain or interpretation of a particular religion.
    He's a political hack. And a race-pimp. Call it whatever you want ... its BS. Not religion. I've attanded Christian based churches all my life and never heard the crap that he preaches about hate and victimhood once. So spare me the "its a strain of religion" BS.

    The only thing that has been shown is that many liberals remain lemmings at the altar of Obama .... Obama ... Ohama.

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    Re: Romney: "If You Want to Learn About My Church, Talk to My Church

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    He's a political hack. And a race-pimp. Call it whatever you want ... its BS. Not religion. I've attanded Christian based churches all my life and never heard the crap that he preaches about hate and victimhood once. So spare me the "its a strain of religion" BS.

    The only thing that has been shown is that many liberals remain lemmings at the altar of Obama .... Obama ... Ohama.
    I'm not sure what you're trying to prove, I couldn't care less what your personal religious experiences are because they're pretty much irrelevant to the point.

    Black liberation theology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Black liberation theology, sometimes shortened to black theology, is a relatively new theological perspective found in some Christian churches in the United States.


    Read: THEOLOGICAL perspective. Not just political.
    Last edited by StillBallin75; 06-09-11 at 09:56 PM.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: Romney: "If You Want to Learn About My Church, Talk to My Church

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I'm not sure what you're trying to prove, I couldn't care less what your personal religious experiences are because they're pretty much irrelevant to the point.

    Black liberation theology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



    Read: THEOLOGICAL perspective. Not just political.
    I do not give a flying **** about liberals and excuse-makers pretending to endorse a political philosophy of victimhood as being actually just valid worship of God and trying to emulate his teachings about peace and humility.

    I do not drink Kool-Ade such that I can look at a race pimp and see him as a mini-pope.

    Liberals embrace any excuse that avoids accountability. I'm not liberal. I despise such ****.

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    Re: Romney: "If You Want to Learn About My Church, Talk to My Church

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    I do not give a flying **** about liberals and excuse-makers pretending to endorse a political philosophy of victimhood as being actually just valid worship of God and trying to emulate his teachings about peace and humility.

    I do not drink Kool-Ade such that I can look at a race pimp and see him as a mini-pope.

    Liberals embrace any excuse that avoids accountability. I'm not liberal. I despise such ****.
    Liberalism has jack to do with liberation theology not being about religion, sorry.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: Romney: "If You Want to Learn About My Church, Talk to My Church

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Liberalism has jack to do with liberation theology not being about religion, sorry.
    Liberalism has everything to do with folks pretending Jeremiah Wright is a man of God.

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    Re: Romney: "If You Want to Learn About My Church, Talk to My Church

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Liberalism has everything to do with folks pretending Jeremiah Wright is a man of God.
    How many more straw men you gonna build? Liberation theology might be hateful, and you might not like it. That doesn't make it not religious. You're gonna have to do a hell of a lot better than "this is the case because I say so."
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: Romney: "If You Want to Learn About My Church, Talk to My Church

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    How many more straw men you gonna build? Liberation theology might be hateful, and you might not like it. That doesn't make it not religious. You're gonna have to do a hell of a lot better than "this is the case because I say so."
    See that part of your post that I bolded ? Your words ?

    It has nothing to do with what I do, and do not, like.

    Thank you for giving me the example I needed.

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