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    Re: United Nations: Disconnecting People From the Internet Is a Violation of Human Ri

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    Yes, I do also agree with the part of half the world being violated of their human rights
    Yet the idea itself is ridiculous. Why is disconnecting people from the Internet a violation of human rights? The person whose connection has been lost might not have paid for the connection, or the company providing the connection might have bankrupted, or countless other kinds of circumstances that can't and shouldn't be outlawed.
    I think it's referring to denying people the right to access the internet, rather than not providing them with the service itself (e.g. if they don't pay their bill). I think of it as akin to a government telling someone that they aren't allowed to read newspapers, watch television, or listen to the radio. It's a way for them to restrict information flow to their people.

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    I would like to say that this is another piece of evidence and an example of why the UN is worthless and nothing but a mouthpiece for human right activists
    I guess I don't see the problem with being a "mouthpiece for human rights activists." If they're going to be a mouthpiece for anything, that seems like a pretty good agenda.
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    Re: United Nations: Disconnecting People From the Internet Is a Violation of Human Ri

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    How can something be considered a human right when its potentiality has only existed for a couple of decades?
    You could say the same thing about the free press, since that's only been around for a couple of centuries.

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    Re: United Nations: Disconnecting People From the Internet Is a Violation of Human Ri

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I think it's referring to denying people the right to access the internet, rather than not providing them with the service itself (e.g. if they don't pay their bill). I think of it as akin to a government telling someone that they aren't allowed to read newspapers, watch television, or listen to the radio. It's a way for them to restrict information flow to their people.



    I guess I don't see the problem with being a "mouthpiece for human rights activists." If they're going to be a mouthpiece for anything, that seems like a pretty good agenda.
    Well, I was stating that the UN should actually take actions, instead of filing worthless reports on how a remote race is starving, and billions of dollars should be spent to help a couple of hundred people be kept alive.
    Just my opinion

    Anyway, before this thread goes off into a debate about the UN's worthiness, the notion is still ridiculous, because how is disconnecting people from the Internet a violation of human rights? Then, shouldn't disconnecting people from phone, newspaper, and TV access also be a violation of human rights? Just saying
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    Re: United Nations: Disconnecting People From the Internet Is a Violation of Human Ri

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    You could say the same thing about the free press, since that's only been around for a couple of centuries.
    Actually, it has been around for a long time, ever since the Roman Age
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    Re: United Nations: Disconnecting People From the Internet Is a Violation of Human Ri

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    Anyway, before this thread goes off into a debate about the UN's worthiness, the notion is still ridiculous, because how is disconnecting people from the Internet a violation of human rights? Then, shouldn't disconnecting people from phone, newspaper, and TV access also be a violation of human rights? Just saying
    I would argue that cutting off people's access to information *is* a violation of human rights, regardless of the media in question. I don't see much difference between Hosni Mubarak cutting off the internet, or Hugo Chavez roughing up newspaper reporters, or Kim Jong-il banning privately-owned radios. They're just different ways of controlling the people's access to information so that the government isn't held accountable.
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    Re: United Nations: Disconnecting People From the Internet Is a Violation of Human Ri

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    For the same reason people think everybody has a right to a house and a car and a job and everything else...
    A house can be taken from you - so can a car. So can your job . . . and everything else.

    But the internet is sacred. LOL
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    Re: United Nations: Disconnecting People From the Internet Is a Violation of Human Ri

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I think I'm gonna take a moment to laugh at you, the UN and anyone else that thinks access to the Internet is a "Human Right".

    Laughable, except for the more dangerous underlying issue:

    If access to the internet is a "Human Right" then that means you cannot be charged to access it, which means "Government" must provide it. Furthermore, if it's a "Human Right" and a Government entity has to provide for it, to ensure your rights after all, that means the Government will need to ensure that the content you are receiving is "the right content".

    You didn't think about it Kandahar, you felt about it, and it felt bad to think that somewhere, someone, might not be able to access the internet! Didn't it?
    Of course in some of these countries, internet access (or access to any information) is controlled by the government. When they cut off the internet, what they are doing is cutting off dissent and Free Speech. The real issue isn't "internet," it's "information."

    Stop the spread of information, and you can stop the spread of democracy.

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    Re: United Nations: Disconnecting People From the Internet Is a Violation of Human Ri

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    Actually, it has been around for a long time, ever since the Roman Age
    Not everywhere. You live in South Korea, right? Look a little to your North...

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    Re: United Nations: Disconnecting People From the Internet Is a Violation of Human Ri

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Not everywhere. You live in South Korea, right? Look a little to your North...
    Those of us in this part of the world are well aware of neighboring regimes that do not have free press. However, that doesn't mean it hasn't existed in other locales for a long time, which is what I think was Proud South Korean's point...
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