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    Re: Tennessee Trumps Wiconsin: Kills Teacher Collective Bargaining. Dead.

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Doesn't getting rid of Teachers Unions just increase the power of the government? I thought Conservatives were against government having more power.
    This is why it is so important to understand the basics. Unions make deals with politicians to increase their pay and benefits. We call these politicians democrats. The union members are paid with tax payer dollars. Union members pay mandatory dues to union thugs, I mean leaders. The unions then use the taxpayer dollars to help politicians get elected. We call those politicians democrats. The democrats make deals with the unions to increase their pay and benefits. The union members are paid with taxpayer dollars...
    So eliminating the unions is like cleaning the rats nest out from under your house.

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    Re: Tennessee Trumps Wiconsin: Kills Teacher Collective Bargaining. Dead.

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Taxpayers exchange taxes for labor - you have no right to what public workers do with their own property (their money).
    What? The government forces me to labor for the benefit of others two days out of every week. Every week. When Union thugs and democrat thug get together for the benefit of themselves to the detriment of the taxpayer then it is time for the unions to go.

    Why do you think unions and union movements were so important to the Soviet Union, and democrats alike? Isn't because they stand against merit and achievement?

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    Re: Tennessee Trumps Wiconsin: Kills Teacher Collective Bargaining. Dead.

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    What? The government forces me to labor for the benefit of others two days out of every week. Every week. When Union thugs and democrat thug get together for the benefit of themselves to the detriment of the taxpayer then it is time for the unions to go.
    1. What do you mean the government forces you to labor?
    2. Taxpayers exchange taxes for labor - you have no right to tell public workers what to do with their private property.

    Why do you think unions and union movements were so important to the Soviet Union, and democrats alike? Isn't because they stand against merit and achievement?
    No. I suggest you study the history of unions in this country.

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    Re: Tennessee Trumps Wiconsin: Kills Teacher Collective Bargaining. Dead.

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    1. What do you mean the government forces you to labor?
    I thought I wrote the government forces me to labor for the benefit of others...

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    Re: Tennessee Trumps Wiconsin: Kills Teacher Collective Bargaining. Dead.

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Doesn't getting rid of Teachers Unions just increase the power of the government? I thought Conservatives were against government having more power.
    over the populace yes.


    in making public workers accountable for their actions no.

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    Re: Tennessee Trumps Wiconsin: Kills Teacher Collective Bargaining. Dead.

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I thought I wrote the government forces me to labor for the benefit of others...
    Yeah, you did and I'm trying to figure out what you're talking about. The government doesn't force ME to labor for the benefit of others or anyone else I know, so what is the government forcing you to do?

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    Re: Tennessee Trumps Wiconsin: Kills Teacher Collective Bargaining. Dead.

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Hooray!
    Step by step, state by state... The ball of sobriety is rolling.
    Along the way we need to eliminate the DoE.

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    Its so sad. Our wages have stagnated for decades, so in our dismay, we pull down those who are still considered successful out of jealousy.

    The best answer is to aggressively pursue policies that improve worker wages and not pull everyone else down into the pit with us.
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    Re: Tennessee Trumps Wiconsin: Kills Teacher Collective Bargaining. Dead.

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Its so sad. Our wages have stagnated for decades, so in our dismay, we pull down those who are still considered successful out of jealousy.

    The best answer is to aggressively pursue policies that improve worker wages and not pull everyone else down into the pit with us.
    as Lincoln put it: you do not help the wage-earner by tearing down the wage-giver.

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    Re: Tennessee Trumps Wiconsin: Kills Teacher Collective Bargaining. Dead.

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Please help me with this. Where can I find this authority in the US Constitution? Which section? Which paragraph? Which sentence?
    I think we should return to Constitutional government.
    If your contention is that the fed shouldnt be funding education, we agree....you are a latecomer on the "end federal funding of education and shut down the DoE" train. I dont see that it is dangerous...but I do see it is ineffective and inefficient. Its foolish to tax US citizens and send 80-90 billion to the fed education program, only to have thgem dole out dollars back to the states. Cut out the fed, reduce taxes, and allow the states to tax and provide services as their citizens dictate.

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    Re: Tennessee Trumps Wiconsin: Kills Teacher Collective Bargaining. Dead.

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    as Lincoln put it: you do not help the wage-earner by tearing down the wage-giver.
    Yet we are doing so by trying to destroy public unions.

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