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Sarah Palin: Paul Revere's Ride to Protect the Second Amendment

What she was going to take away from her visit. I **** you not.

Wow! What a gotcha! How can she possibly be expected to answer questions like that? Obviously, the questioner wanted to put her in a position to garble up a piece of American history, then say that she was right, then get her followers to stand reason, logic, and fact on its head in an attempt to prove the mutability of the past. How dare they ask.... well, of course the MSM would never ask such a hardball question to a Democrat!
 
If I make an error, I'll admit, unlike Palin... I didn't say anything historically inaccurate....


SheWolf said:
That's the most pathetic spin I have ever seen. He didn't ring bells or shot a gun... Israel Bissell did, and he wasn't warning anybody to secure their guns.
First, it would be shoot, not shot.

Second, you are otherwise factually inaccurate.

Israel Bissell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Nothing here about Israel ringing any bells, or shooting a gun.

Nothing historically inaccurate? Really.
 
I don't see 3-4 threads in here by Conservatives every time Joe 'the human gaffe machine' Biden ****s something up. Do you?

Are democrats running to his defense and digging through historical letters, books, and trash cans to prove he is right and everybody else is stupid when he says something ignorant?
 
She wasn't talking about him being interrogated by the British. Do you want us to post the quote again... and again.... and again?

That's exactly what she was talking about. No matter how many times you post her comment, that's not going to change.
 
This is an exact transcription of what she said:

"He who warned, uh, the - the British that they weren’t going to be taking away our arms, uh, by ringing those bells and, and um, making sure as he’s riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that we were going to be secure and we were going to be free and we were going to be armed."



This video leaves off the bold bit, but she did say it.


If I make an error, I'll admit, unlike Palin... I didn't say anything historically inaccurate unless you're trying to say that "ringing bells" meant colonial door bells. I said earlier what his mission was, it wasn't to tell people to hide their fire arms.

How do you ring a doorbell as you're riding through town?
 
Are democrats running to his defense and digging through historical letters, books, and trash cans to prove he is right and everybody else is stupid when he says something ignorant?

No. Democrats just deny, deflect or ignore. No historical facts or searching needed usually. Of course since you're speaking in generality I am as well.
 
BTW, Ikari, you may notice that her actual words don't exactly match what you've been posting as, her actual words. :lamo

WASHINGTON — Sarah Palin insisted Sunday that history was on her side when she claimed that Paul Revere's famous ride was intended to warn both British soldiers and his fellow colonists.

"You realize that you messed up about Paul Revere, don't you?" "Fox News Sunday" anchor Chris Wallace asked the potential 2012 presidential candidate.

"I didn't mess up about Paul Revere," replied Palin, a paid contributor to the network.

"Part of his ride was to warn the British that were already there. That, hey, you're not going to succeed. You're not going to take American arms. You are not going to beat our own well-armed persons, individual, private militia that we have," she added. "He did warn the British."


Palin: I didn't mess up Paul Revere history - Politics - msnbc.com

Well he who laughs last laughs best :lamo
 
That's exactly what she was talking about. No matter how many times you post her comment, that's not going to change.

Correct. No matter how many times her comment is posted, it isn't going to change. It will never change into anything that any rational person, Republican or Democrat, can possibly support.
 
WASHINGTON — Sarah Palin insisted Sunday that history was on her side when she claimed that Paul Revere's famous ride was intended to warn both British soldiers and his fellow colonists.

"You realize that you messed up about Paul Revere, don't you?" "Fox News Sunday" anchor Chris Wallace asked the potential 2012 presidential candidate.

"I didn't mess up about Paul Revere," replied Palin, a paid contributor to the network.

"Part of his ride was to warn the British that were already there. That, hey, you're not going to succeed. You're not going to take American arms. You are not going to beat our own well-armed persons, individual, private militia that we have," she added. "He did warn the British."


Palin: I didn't mess up Paul Revere history - Politics - msnbc.com

Well he who laughs last laughs best :lamo

So, whose wrong: you, or BDBoop? You each have a different quote.
 
So, whose wrong: you, or BDBoop? You each have a different quote.

She quoted the first video where Palin slipped up. I quoted what she said to clarify her statements on Fox News.
 
So, whose wrong: you, or BDBoop? You each have a different quote.

I have her first, original quote, and Ikari has Palin's defensive, "I WAS TOO RIGHT" quote.
 
I hate it for ya, but even with a poor delivery, she nailed it.

Let's break it down:



During his ride, he was detained by a British detachment and he did, in fact, warn them against trying to tangle with the colonist militia.



He was reminding the locals to ring the church bells and fire rifle shots in the air, as part of the predesignated warnings. Bells were ringing and warning shots were being fired all over the countryside by this time.

I don't know why ya'll sre having such a problem, here. Partisan hackery, perhaps?

BTW, Ikari, you may notice that her actual words don't exactly match what you've been posting as, her actual words. :lamo

You broke the quote up... It's obvious she isn't talking about him being interrogated.

"He who warned, uh, the - the British that they weren’t going to be taking away our arms uh, by ringing those bells and, and um, making sure as he’s riding his horse through town."

It's plain and simple... she thinks the purpose of his ride was to warn the British.

He who warned, uh, the - the British that they weren’t going to be taking away our arms, uh, by ringing those bells and, and um, making sure as he’s riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that we were going to be secure and we were going to be free and we were going to be armed."

It also looks like she's saying Revere rang bells and fired his gun... Now, in all honesty, she isn't stupid for saying this, because I really think it's one of those common myths that were taught in public schools for years in America... Just like teaching Columbus sailed the world to prove the world was round. We already knew the world was round... that's a myth. Betsy Ross didn't sew the first American flag, and the legend was likely started and spread by her grandson. Look it up if you don't believe me.

Revere has always gotten more credit than Israel Bissell, and Bissell out rode Revere and even rode his horse to death.

Some think Revere rose to fame because his name wasn't as strange as Israel Bissell's and because Revere had a catchier poem and song... :shrug:

The thing that is stupid about this situation is seeing people so eager to defend her, it's obvious what she said. Stop trying to change her words. I can forgive her, because she was probably taught Revere rode with large bells and shot a gun in elementary school... (I swear I can remember even seeing artist depictions of him heroically galloping on his horse with bells and a musket).. but I can't forgive your desperation to make her quotes look like something they are not.
 
What she was going to take away from her visit. I **** you not.

That's a gem... I mean, it sounds like she was trying to squeeze in a bunch of rehearsed ad libs with a response like that but got it all jumbled together and lost.
 
That's a gem... I mean, it sounds like she was trying to squeeze in a bunch of rehearsed ad libs with a response like that but got it all jumbled together and lost.

When I first saw that video, I started asking people if they thought she was stoned. Because she sure looked that way to me.
 
You blew the whole Bissell thing to hell-n-gone. The sad part is, you don't even kow why. And, who said that anyone said to hide their arms? Is this more fabrication being added to Palin's comment?

Bissell, a 23-year-old postal rider when the war broke out on April 19, 1775, rode day and night with little sleep during an exhausting 345-mile journey from Boston's western edge to Philadelphia. On the first leg, he rode one horse so hard that the animal collapsed and died beneath him as he arrived in Worcester, roughly two hours after leaving Watertown.

"To arms, to arms. The war has begun," Bissell shouted as he passed through each little town.

Dozens of other messengers also raced on horseback to spread the word, making it likely that Revere was a composite of these brave men, said J.L. Bell, a Massachusetts writer who specializes in Revolutionary War-era Boston.

In response to their cries, church bells were rung and muskets were fired: British redcoats were attacking. The American Revolution had begun.

But there were no bells pealing for Israel Bissell, whose ride was obscured in history's annals by Revere's 20-mile gallop, which was so greatly amplified by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow. His 11-verse poem, first published in 1860 as "Paul Revere's Ride," became familiar to generations of American schoolchildren because it was a more dramatic story.

It's been said over and over that Revere had better personal connections and didn't need to make such a ruckus, and he went door to door.

"Revere’s mission took place at the behest of Dr. Joseph Warren, a Boston leader of the revolutionary cause, for the purpose of warning Samuel Adams and John Hancock – who were staying at the Hancock home – that the British soliders were likely coming to arrest them and that they would do well to get out of the house before they were taken."

WHDH-TV - Israel Bissell outrode Paul Revere, yet didn't get a poem
 
That's a gem...

This is a better gem...

SheWolf said:
If I make an error, I'll admit, unlike Palin... I didn't say anything historically inaccurate....

Whovian said:
SheWolf said:
That's the most pathetic spin I have ever seen. He didn't ring bells or shot a gun... Israel Bissell did, and he wasn't warning anybody to secure their guns.

First, it would be shoot, not shot.

Second, you are otherwise factually inaccurate.

Israel Bissell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Nothing here about Israel ringing any bells, or shooting a gun.

Nothing historically inaccurate? Really.

I find your inability to admit a factual error on your part hypocritical, considering how your whining about Palin's inability to do the same.
 
American History X — Palin, Paul Revere, Wikipedia, and our passion for revision - ComPost - The Washington Post

Our public discourse about history is turning into a sort of Bring Your Own Fact bonanza.

Instead of admitting that we misstated the sum of two and two, we are actively trying to make it five. After Palin’s infamous remarks that Paul Revere was “warning the British” on his famous ride, with “shots” and “bells,” suddenly Paul Revere's Wikipedia page broke out in a rash of comments and updates that included notes (italicized) like “Revere did not shout the phrase later attributed to him (‘The British are coming!’), largely because the mission depended on secrecy and the countryside was filled with British army patrols; also, most colonial residents at the time considered themselves British as they were all legally British subjects.”

But then some of the editors at Wikipedia were unsporting enough to remove them.

I can’t imagine why. “Everyone must be allowed to rewrite history all the time because history is kind of boring and nobody really remembers it all that well,” as Aristotle once said.

This is where our history is headed. Once remarks like Palin's would have been flubs. Instead, they provoked whole slews of historians to emerge from the woodwork screaming that We May Never Know What Happened On That Fateful Day.

This worries me.

I don’t like turning my back on history and getting the uneasy sense that it has moved. History is, after all, not living. That is what makes it history. Faulkner said that the past isn't dead – it's not even past. But Faulkner was speaking metaphorically. In general, if your history is up and moving about the cabin, that is an indication that something is seriously amiss.

Martin Luther King Jr., didn’t walk across the Atlantic with Charlemagne promoting The King’s Speech so that people could cavalierly rewrite history this way. As George Washington said, “Sarah Palin is a charismatic figure, but this seems wrong.”
 
That's exactly what she was talking about. No matter how many times you post her comment, that's not going to change.

Then why is she talking about him warning the British by riding through town and ringing those bells?
 
When I first saw that video, I started asking people if they thought she was stoned. Because she sure looked that way to me.
You know, I neve would have considered that. But I probably don't get stoned nearly as often as those who would think it. Wait! I don't get stoned at all.
 
This is a better gem...


I find your inability to admit a factual error on your part hypocritical, considering how your whining about Palin's inability to do the same.


I already posted a response, above... Tell me exactly what you have an issue with, and we will work it out.
 
You know, I neve would have considered that. But I probably don't get stoned nearly as often as those who would think it. Wait! I don't get stoned at all.

I can't get stoned, my lungs refuse to go there. Of course, I haven't tried for I wanna say 30+ years.
 
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I'm just laughing because she was seriously a republican nomination for the vice presidency when the nation was in economic crisis and she's quite artful at defending previous miss-steps and public gaffs with wide-eyed craziness

imagine if she was 4 or 8 years earlier? GB Jr + Sarah Palin = LMAO :p
 
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