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Sarah Palin: Paul Revere's Ride to Protect the Second Amendment

Dr_Patrick said:
Maybe if you say she was correct enough times, people will start to believe it. :doh
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Have you been able to dig up primary source docs proving her wrong? No? Didn't think so.
 
apdst said:
Have you been able to dig up primary source docs proving her wrong? No? Didn't think so.
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You're being silly. Not sure how to deal with someone doing this. But the fact is, she was wrong.
 
apdst said:
Have you been able to dig up primary source docs proving her wrong? No? Didn't think so.
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Did you? You were given quotes where Palin said it was part of Revere's ride to warn the British. You were asked to dig up primary souce docs proving her right. Did you? No? Didn't think so.
 
apdst said:
Have you been able to dig up primary source docs proving her wrong? No? Didn't think so.
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Now that's rich coming from the poster who didn't even know what Palin said ...

Sheik Yerbuti said:
Accordng to her, it was...

"Part of his ride was to warn the British" ~ Sarah Palin

No, part of his ride was not to warn the British. She got that wrong too and her acolytes simply can't accept that.

apdst said:
Damn, her actual words just keep changin' and changin'.

Where did she say, "it was part of his ride"?
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[Emphasis added]
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"... but remember that the British had already been there, many soldiers for seven years in that area and part of Paul Revere's ride, and it wasn't just one ride, he was a courrier, he was a messenger; part of his ride was to warn the British that we we're already there, that hey, you’re not going to succeed. You’re not gonna take American arms." ~ Sarah "The Quitter" Palin
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You don't even know what she said -- but you know she was right?? :roll:
 
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ptif219 said:
How Accurate Were Palin's Paul Revere Comments? : NPR

Prof. ALLISON: Well, he's not firing warning shots. He is telling people so that they can ring bells to alert others. What he's doing is going from house to house, knocking on doors of members of the Committees of Safety, saying the regulars are out. That is, he knew that General Gage was sending troops out to Lexington and Concord, really Concord, to seize the weapons being stockpiled there, but also perhaps to arrest John Hancock and Samuel Adams, leaders of the Continental Congress who were staying in the town of Lexington.

Remember, Gage was planning - this is a secret operation; that's why he's moving at night. He gets over to Cambridge, the troops start marching from Cambridge, and church bells are ringing throughout the countryside.

BLOCK: So Paul Revere was ringing those bells? He was a silversmith, right?

Prof. ALLISON: Well, he was - he also was a bell ringer. That is, he rang the bells at Old North Church as a boy. But he, personally, is not getting off his horse and going to ring bells. He's telling other people - and this is their system before Facebook, before Twitter, before NPR - this was the way you get a message out, is by having people ring church bells, and everyone knows there is an emergency.

And by this time, of course, the various town committees of safety, militia knew what the signals were, so they knew something was afoot. So this is no longer a secret operation for the British.

Revere isn't trying to alert the British, but he is trying to warn them. And in April of 1775, no one was talking about independence. We're still part of the British Empire. We're trying to save it. So this is a warning to the British Empire what will happen if you provoke Americans.

BLOCK:Sarah Palin also was saying there that Paul Revere's message to the British in his warning was: You're not going to take American arms - you know, basically a Second Amendment argument, even though the Second Amendment didn't exist then.

Prof. ALLISON: Yeah. She was making a Second Amendment case. But in fact, the British were going out to Concord to seize colonists' arms, the weapons that the Massachusetts Provincial Congress was stockpiling there.

So, yeah, she is right in that. I mean, she may be pushing it too far to say this is a Second Amendment case. Of course, neither the Second Amendment nor the Constitution was in anyone's mind at the time. But the British objective was to get the arms that were stockpiled in Concord.

BLOCK: So you think basically, on the whole, Sarah Palin got her history right.

Prof. ALLISON: Well, yeah, she did. And remember, she is a politician. She's not an historian. And God help us when historians start acting like politicians, and I suppose when politicians start writing history.
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That's the most pathetic spin I have ever seen. He didn't ring bells or shot a gun... Israel Bissell did, and he wasn't warning anybody to secure their guns.
 
ptif219 said:
Historians said she was correct and you want to cherry pick because you are so partisan Palin could never be right.

Keep trying but the left calling historians liars just shows they have no credibility
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You found ONE historian who said she was correct. I can find ONE historian who says life started in Siberia, Russia alongside dinosaurs... no really, I can. He is a Russian historian and Soviet idealist.
 
Ptif,

Palin is human, she makes mistakes.... She's allowed to make mistakes. We aren't saying she can't make mistakes. I think some people find it entertaining that you and others won't admit that and run to her defense at all costs, hence the 600 posts on this thread. What's so bad about saying she goofed, just once... say she make a mistake... :LOL:
 
Ptif,

Palin is human, she makes mistakes.... She's allowed to make mistakes. We aren't saying she can't make mistakes. I think some people find it entertaining that you and others won't admit that and run to her defense at all costs, hence the 600 posts on this thread. What's so bad about saying she goofed, just once... say she make a mistake... :lol:
 
I don't understand why some people insist on attempting to refudiate that Palin was wrong.
 
BDBoop said:
I don't understand why some people insist on attempting to refudiate that Palin was wrong.
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They've latched on with some near wolverine tenacity to her. I don't get it myself, it's obvious from her quotes and history that what she said doesn't 100% line up with what really happened. But some I guess are very blind in their partisanship and will attack anyone who dare say that she wasn't absolutely correct with her statements.
 
SheWolf said:
You found ONE historian who said she was correct. I can find ONE historian who says life started in Siberia, Russia alongside dinosaurs... no really, I can. He is a Russian historian and Soviet idealist.
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She was proven right with primary source documentation, in the form of a letter written by Paul Revere, himself. Sorry, but that's a black jack, in this card game.
 
BDBoop said:
I don't understand why some people insist on attempting to refudiate that Palin was wrong.
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Because she wasn't wrong. Why do you et. al. insist that she's wrong, even in the face of such historical evidence?
 
Boo Radley said:
You're being silly. Not sure how to deal with someone doing this. But the fact is, she was wrong.
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I'm sure you're sitting on the evidence to prove that. Right?
 
Ikari said:
Did you? You were given quotes where Palin said it was part of Revere's ride to warn the British. You were asked to dig up primary souce docs proving her right. Did you? No? Didn't think so.
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That's not what she said. You're taking her comment out of context.
 
apdst said:
Because she wasn't wrong. Why do you et. al. insist that she's wrong, even in the face of such historical evidence?
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Because it's Sara Palin.

Just like the 6 or so years of Bush Syndrome... it's a mental illness.
 
Ikari said:
They're mostly just laughing
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So, you deny that her detractors are so gun ho against her that they will avail themselves of any and all opportunities to attack her in any way they can? That her detractors would never stoop to say, going after her family members? Things like that?
 
SheWolf said:
That's the most pathetic spin I have ever seen. He didn't ring bells or shot a gun... Israel Bissell did, and he wasn't warning anybody to secure their guns.
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That's the most hillarious post on this thread, so far. I bet you don't even realize your error.

And, you want to accuse an actual historian of spinning the truth?
 
apdst said:
That's not what she said. You're taking her comment out of context.
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Ikari said:
Palin, a paid Fox News contributor, told "Fox News Sunday" that she was correct. She says there were British soldiers in the area for years before Revere's legendary ride, and that he was warning them, as well as his fellow colonists.

"Part of his ride was to warn the British that were already there that 'hey, you're not going to take American arms, you are not going to beat our own well-armed persons individual private militia that we have.'"

She blamed her previous answer on the media, saying it was a "gotcha question."

Sarah Palin On Paul Revere Ride: I Didn't Get History Wrong (VIDEO)
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What? Can you not read? Is that what this is about. It's been posted, it is verified, that is what she said. Fact of the matter is, Paul Revere was not out ringing bells, shooting guns, nor purposefully warning the British as part of his mission. The fact of the matter is that she said that it was part of his mission. Jesus.
 
Whovian said:
So, you deny that her detractors are so gun ho against her that they will avail themselves of any and all opportunities to attack her in any way they can? That her detractors would never stoop to say, going after her family members? Things like that?
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I don't know if it's so much that they're so gun ho about going out there and "getting" her, or if it's just because it drops in their laps all the time. Other politicians don't seem to have as many problems with this. So it's either everybody but her, or it's her.
 
Ikari said:
I don't know if it's so much that they're so gun ho about going out there and "getting" her, or if it's just because it drops in their laps all the time. Other politicians don't seem to have as many problems with this. So it's either everybody but her, or it's her.
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Other politicians didn't have the unmitigated gall to dare oppose the Chosen One in some fashion, remember?
 
Ikari said:
What? Can you not read? Is that what this is about. It's been posted, it is verified, that is what she said. Fact of the matter is, Paul Revere was not out ringing bells, shooting guns, nor purposefully warning the British as part of his mission. The fact of the matter is that she said that it was part of his mission. Jesus.
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Looks like she got it right, because that's what happened when, on part of his ride, he was detained by a British detachment and at that time, he warned them against attempting to disarm the militia. Shall I post his letter, again?
 
Whovian said:
Other politicians didn't have the unmitigated gall to dare oppose the Chosen One in some fashion, remember?
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Dude, this is not a conspiracy or anything. People aren't out to get Palin. She does this herself. At some point she should at least learn to control what she says. On some front, it's almost like watching a train wreck, and no one looks away from those.
 
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